Caste and religion
16 11 11 - 19:14
An insight into why ancients were the way they were:
In the ancient times, society was divided into classes, which was a valid thing to do. Son of a farmer was a farmer not because he can't become a scholar but rather because the effort required would be higher. Every farmer's thought trains can be generalized partially, obviously his son can himself acquire these thought trains quite easily as he interacts with a surroundings which stimulate these thought trains, thus he has an advantage if he were to choose his career as a farmer. Similarly, son of a scholar would easily be developed into one himself. Since collective development of the society was given more importance than individual whims, this structure of society was followed. This automatically meant that there would be a hierarchy in intelligence based on the occupations of different people. Thus in its own way, the ancient Indian society had a man and an Ãbermensch ('above man') with the former consisting of groups of people with menial jobs and the latter with much more matured occupations.
According to me, the only logical explanation of the origin of religion was that the man in lower position in intellectual hierarchy needed a set of rules which he, by himself, couldn't have perceived. This fact was understood by the Ãbermensch and thus they fabricated rules or introduced texts , which were essentially consisting of moral guidelines for individual roles in the development of the society, these may be in the form of stories, some very impractical and are thus, frowned upon today. - The Alternate Portal
The same rules apply today.
If you are of a lower IQ, you have two basic choices:
(1) Hope you get lucky in the game of life
(2) Get guaranteed income by having caste status
While one in ten thousand might benefit from #1, the rest benefit from #2 -- and the one who benefited from #1 may not confer that benefit in turn on those subject to his services or goods.
As science explores onward, it finds more of what it does not know.
I suggest that instead of trying to oppose religion, we adopt it. Take it home, learn to understand it, feed it and hold it. Then show it our point of view.
Our society is wracked by pointless wars in which individuals demand "freedom" from things. We don't need freedom. We need order.
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Oh great well I guess that's theology and religious history dealt with then. Can this guy neatly tie up any other realm of human thought - say, physics - for us while he's at it? He's obviously an authority and not just some guy on the internet applying his prejudices retroactively. fuckin magnets - 17-11-’11 12:31
Farming as a career didn't disappear because "people turned their back on tradition" or some stupid bullshit, it disappeared because of economic factors. A consequence of industrialization and modern agriculture is that developed countries don't need that many people working in the agricultural sector in order to have food. Not that those people weren't rustic hicks to begin with. High paying jobs are high paying for a reason, and that reason makes it impossible for an autistic metal-listening virgin to work them. Jelly? power life - 17-11-’11 18:18
This is complete fucking bullshit. Power and personal gain were the only things keeping any pre-Revolutionary France system working. The 98% of the population that were peasants before mechanized agriculture and industrialization weren't working the soil out of some notion "collective development of society", they were there because they had no means or power to advance and few at the top had the wealth and power to maintain their position.
>This automatically meant that there would be a hierarchy in intelligence based on the occupations of different people.
What? You just said that the son of a farmer could also be a scholar.
You are a fucking idiot and an over-simplifying tool. If you think the "thought patterns" of farmers and the problems they have to deal with are somehow unique to that profession and not transferrable to other occupations, you are a fucking retard.
And while you're at it, I suggest you numbskulls learn to read standard normal distributions ("bell curves" to you dum-dums) and understand what the areas under them actually mean. There are as many people with an IQ above 130 (3% of the population) as there are with an IQ below 70 (considered intellectually disabled). I seriously doubt you belong to the former group.
Actually, there are a few more people with more severe mental retardation; there's another small "hump" in the IQ 40-60 region. You'd be the first to go - 17-11-’11 18:33
it doesn't involve trolling. Anyone? Anyone? - 17-11-’11 21:37
Not like some fag named "fuckin magnets" dipshit - 17-11-’11 21:57
I can disagree on my own, but please, give some kind of actual counter argument instead of knee jerk emotional reactions. Autistic metal listening virgin - 17-11-’11 22:05
A starving and uneducated peasantry helped to overthrow a fat, worthless, inbreed upper class...then proceeded to murder each other and then rally behind some Corsican dwarf who used them in an attempt to conquer the world. They then came to him again after he was defeated the first time. For what?
Let's not ignore the fact that popular opinion has drawbacks as well. passing observation - 18-11-’11 12:26
Bravo, wonderful statement. You forgot to state who they helped: Diderot, Rousseau, Robespierre, the creators of the state that recognized the rights of man, the virtue of science over the yoke of religion, and all the ideas on which is built the modern state that lets a coddled fuck like you spew his bullshit into the void. I'll stab your neck you reactionary fuck - 18-11-’11 13:27
Oh, I'm the one who's being reactionary?
"and all the ideas on which is built the modern state that lets a coddled fuck like you spew his bullshit into the void."
Again, not anything like you, right?
"So youâre implying that in order to mock this guyâs retarded perspective, I need to come up with some pseudo-political punditry of my own? Thatâs fucking retarded. Thatâs like saying âWell whereâs your music? Huh?â when someone calls your music shit (and rightfully so, since weâre on this site)."
Brilliant. Simply brilliant. I guess asking for some actual intelligent input is too much. Thanks for not pretending to have a brain.
I'll ask everyone of you shit-throwing apes what your ideas for saving the world are, seeing how Diderot, Rousseau, Robespierre were the pinnacle of enlightenment and we couldn't possibly come up with anything better. Oh yes, all hail the fathers of prole infested welfare state and all that it stands for. I would think that after thousands of years of history, the current state of science, etc. that maybe we might actually be willing to learn something and do things a little differently than before. Perhaps, I don't know, like taking our own destiny in our hands and doing things a little differently than before...instead of forcing Nature to do it for us.
My point about the Frog Revolution was simply that, massive problems arose from letting the illiterate peons have their way. America is going the same way, but as usual we're the last ones to notice. Hypocrites OR without a keyboard no one can hear you scream - 18-11-’11 16:50
Or allow me to translate for the anti-ANUS crowd: SHIT FUCK BITCH FUCK CUNT WHORE FAGGOT FAGGOT FUCK!
Did you understand THAT, you fucking baboons? SAY SOMETHING - 18-11-’11 16:55
What we have here is gross reductionism. I favor order, stability and harmony over freedumb too, but this is just so fucking crude. There's more going on in religion than rule-making. Lightning - 18-11-’11 21:31
If you call yourself "LIGHTNING" then say something impressive...like the real thing.
ANUS never said that you have to agree 100% of the time, but at least they have something to say, something that makes you think...unlike the rest of you faggots. GL - 18-11-’11 23:58
Has this site ever done anything outside of the internet? Nope. They come up with some BS excuses about how activism is a waste of time but never do anything better.
ANUS used to have intelligent articles that provoked interesting thought and discourse, now all they do is parrot whatever quasi-rightwing European politics is popular.
ANUS basically went to shit when it started going down the political route and occasionally tossing out the same old crap about "transcendental idealism" mixed with some evil satanic blasphemy for the kiddies. You stupid cunts - 19-11-’11 07:43
none of YOU stupid cunts has said anything.
if your not willing to engage in "interesting thought and discourse" then just shut the fuck up. your mom gags on my Balzac - 19-11-’11 09:32
"Your" an idiot. I'm done here. - 19-11-’11 11:38
Again - why do I need ideas for saving the world to point out a shitty, flawed worldview? ... - 22-11-’11 12:49
would you rather not have any, and instead hide from what's killing you and your society?
"to point out a shitty, flawed worldview?"
That's actually what this site and countless others do...and that's what happens to idiots who ask circular questions and/or troll with pointless curses and insults.
Stop taking one sentence and ignoring the rest. ??? - 22-11-’11 16:50