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Nationalism and racial segregation

03 11 11 - 19:01

You have been trained by the biggest media engine the world has ever seen and its most powerful government. They have taught you to think in only two options: either you accept everyone everywhere everytime, or you're a racist/elitist/sexist/etc.

Nationalism doesn't fit into this rubric, which is why they constructed it.

Nationalism is separate from racism. Racism is feeling that a certain race is inferior or should be removed. Nationalism is also separate from IQ statistics, crime rates, skull shapes and other stuff like that.

Nationalism is this: recognizing that without a strong identity, our culture becomes a giant shopping mall with a cultureless gray race. Multiculturalism, commerce, and internationalism destroy that identity, which is formed from the bond between culture, language, customs, heritage and values. You either have a society with an identity, or something else has to fill in for that identity, and it is always politicals ("we're Communists" or "we're for Freedom") and commerce (consumerism = "freedom").

Those who do not accept nationalism as legitimate are afraid of its legitimacy and trying to shout it down. They do this by calling anything but multiculturalism "racist," even though multiculturalism is enforced mixing that destroys all heritages, all ethnies, and all races. That is genocide by any other name.

As mentioned here before, liberals -- who oppose nationalism -- are not a legitimate alternative to conservatism. They are those who adopt an artificial way of looking at the world, based in their own delusional outlook which insists the Ego is more important than Reality at large. Liberals are not unique; this delusional mentality can infect any group, including conservatives, but it's much harder for conservatives because they do not base their philosophy on the individual ego and its desires, judgments and feelings like liberals do.

The only legitimate politics is conservatism, which is better known as "consequentialism" or paying attention to the results of our actions more than our individualistic feelings about them. It is reality-based, not ego-based; it is thus the opposite of liberalism. All legitimate political views have a place within the conservative spectrum, which is huge, but sticks to reality unlike the liberal/leftist/Marxist/anarchist/Communist/Socialist/Democrat world.

You may know good liberals. They are in the grips of delusion. This is not uncommon; most people are delusional about at least one thing. It can be as simple as "smoking won't kill me" or "man, I'm good looking" or even "someday, I will be rewarded for my diligence in trimming my nails." Liberalism just deals with bigger issues, and because it embraces a victimhood-paranoid-defensive outlook, is inherently conquest-oriented, parasitic and violent.

Nationalism is part of conservatism. Why? Because it is a strategy for a healthy society that does not need a nanny/police state to override it, and a society that keeps commerce in check. You want capitalism and consumerism to take a back seat? Deep ecology? More meaning in life? Beautiful art, culture and learning? Then stick with conservatism, nationalism, tradition and possibly monarchism.

Leave liberalism to those who are lost in life, and need delusions of grandeur to keep their damaged egos (full of holes poked by child rape, failure at life, entry-level jobs, bad personal discipline, or simply miserable dating careers) afloat.

28 comments

So which one tries to circumvent reality, again?
"multiculturalism is enforced mixing"

Except that it's not. Show me one law in any multicultural society that "enforces" mixing.

Nationalism, on the other hand, enforces segregation. So which one tries to circumvent reality, again? - 03-11-’11 19:27
If you want to be reality-based, try finding out what reality is.
Also, conservatism and consequentialism are NOT the same thing.

http://seop.leeds.ac.uk/entries/consequentialism/

It is opposed to deontological ethics, in the same site.

There are conservative consequentialists, conservative deontologists, liberal consequentialists, and liberal deontologists. Neither view of ethics entails a particular political position.

There are conservative consequentialists and liberal consequent If you want to be reality-based, try finding out what reality is. - 03-11-’11 19:46
Novgorod
Two commandments for beginning cultures:

1.) Do all your own work. No matter how great the temptation, do not keep slaves. They will destroy you.

2.) Be content with what you have, unless you can get more by brigandage. But don't trade. This will also destroy you. Novgorod - 03-11-’11 20:18
Racial Realist
Learn ALOT of synonyms. Racial Realist - 03-11-’11 21:33
<span class='registered'>JooPe</span>
"They are those who adopt an artificial way of looking at the world, based in their own delusional outlook which insists the Ego is more important than Reality at large"

"They are in the grips of delusion"

"because it embraces a victimhood-paranoid-defensive outlook, is inherently conquest-oriented, parasitic and violent."

"those who are lost in life, and need delusions of grandeur to keep their damaged egos (full of holes poked by child rape, failure at life, entry-level jobs, bad personal discipline, or simply miserable dating careers) afloat. "

Repeat these in front of a mirror and see what happens. Hilarious how much your capacity for unwittingly describing yourself has expanded.

This may come as a shock to you, but not all of us are so weak inside that we rely on external constructs/reassurance for a sense of identity, some of us can actually manage that by ourselves, on our own merits.

ANUS is just another indoctrination machine now, as it has been for some time. People do not come here to have their thoughts/opinions/worldview challenged as i once did, now they come to have them confirmed.

Oh and can anyone tell me how to get off the mailing list? Before most posts were intellectually stimulating regardless of whether i agreed with them or not, but now considering the lack of quality and excessive quantity of posts i assume the author's neurosis is kicking into over-drive. JooPe (URL) - 03-11-’11 22:29
casual observer
Look yourself in the mirror and ask why you keep coming back here then. casual observer - 03-11-’11 22:36
<span class='registered'>JooPe</span>
As i said before, this site was once of the few things i have ever found genuinely intellectually stimulating with thoughts that were foreign and non-derivative to me. I am still curious whether there was a change in leadership or the author merely became neurotically polarised like the rest of the 99%.

Alas, all good things must end... JooPe (URL) - 03-11-’11 23:03
[JooPe]
I'm just sittin' here boxin' the Hobbit, waiting for someone to respond so that I can feel liked. [JooPe] - 03-11-’11 23:18
<span class='registered'>JooPe</span>
Anything other than utter contempt from yourself is probably a sign something is very wrong.

But if you got nothing substantial to say, i guess i am right. o7 JooPe (URL) - 03-11-’11 23:21
Adolf Hitler
I like you JooPe(blush) Adolf Hitler - 03-11-’11 23:50
fuckin magnets
race mixing is natural and has occurred throughout history; the only things to stop it have been severe geographical and cultural barriers. planes, boats and cars coupled with globalisation of culture has made those barriers largely redundant. now the best minds and bodies of the world are free to mate with one another no matter where they are. fuckin magnets - 04-11-’11 04:41
Miscegenation is cool
Race mixing is very natural, I agree with the comment above. Miscegenation, globalism, liberalism and all the other things ANUS loathe are the only steps man can and will take. We're not a damn ant farm where we all collectively work for the damn queen because we all share a red coat of skin and antennas.

Whatever happened during the French Revolution in 1789 awoke something in the people and spread globally. You can almost say it was divine intervention. The thought of freedom and freedom personified is a juxtaposition as it has both good and bad elements but that's obeying nature. That's how reality and nature work, through a dualitistic way of life. We may label it as "good or bad" but that's duality from a human viewpoint.

Considering ANUS or Brett Stevens is trying to push for pan-nationalism, it doesn't seem to be working so well. This site only reaches so far and I can tell you that trying to reach metalheads won't do much good. They can try to preach but no one will give a shit just like they never gave a shit about metalheads before.

Just say fuck it and move on to more pressing matters like how can we save the western world instead of seeing it collapse and trying to start over. Miscegenation is cool - 04-11-’11 07:12
Hmmm
Fuckin magnets uses copy paste. American Revolution = Amerikan Imperialism...1789 = Napoleonic Wars. Hmmm - 04-11-’11 12:11
CommSpec
Haw haw haw pretending misgenation is natural when outside of state intervention and enforced tolerance of aliens people separate of their own accord. CommSpec (Email ) - 04-11-’11 14:24
Think. Just a little.
Really... then why were there ever anti-miscegenation laws?

And now that there are no laws that you MUST marry someone of a different race, why do people do it? Why does Barack Obama even exist? Think. Just a little. - 04-11-’11 15:24
etc.
"Nationalism is part of conservatism."

On the contrary, nationalism is not conservative. Nationalism has its roots in the French Revolution, "1789", that ANUS hates so much. Jean Jacques Rousseau is considered the father of modern political nationalism, it was used as a revolutionary force and a precursor to social ism.

Also, ANUS decries "crowdist" thinking, but nationalism is the perfect embodiment of crowdism, unthinking and lazy. Really, ever notice how all nationalist parties call themselves democratic and populist? Society functions best when the nation is in the background, not the forefront, of people's lives.

Nationalists also are and have been incredibly hostile towards the aristocracy and monarchy, Hitler hated the Habsburgs for instance.

I understand and agree with the criticisms of multiculturalism, but nationalism is not the answer. etc. - 04-11-’11 18:11
Jeffrey Dahmer
I killed a bunch of black guys because I was attracted to them and wanted to be with them forever, even as corpses. I was then killed by a black guy in prison because he thought I was a racist. Jeffrey Dahmer - 04-11-’11 18:17
US Census Bureau
The US Government knows all about race. That's why it took over half a million deaths (mostly "white") to end "black" slavery...even though race is a social construct, and doesn't really exist. US Census Bureau - 04-11-’11 22:14
AIDS Victim
Nationalism has its roots in the French Revolution, “1789”, that ANUS hates so much. Jean Jacques Rousseau is considered the father of modern political nationalism, it was used as a revolutionary force and a precursor to social ism.

Yeah, about that... not so much.

http://www.pan-nationalism.org/

Nationalism isn't nation-state patriotism, which is what you (and your mail-order education) are talking about. AIDS Victim (Email ) - 05-11-’11 06:15
Latin Lover
I'm going to immigrate to Sweden and impregnate Nordic bitches with my untermensch genes. Blonde men are faggots. Latin Lover - 05-11-’11 11:54
Adolf Hitler
Start vit me, Untermensch! JooPen von't return my calls... Adolf Hitler - 05-11-’11 12:39
Conservatives must use their brains before they speak
Miscegenation is natural and fucking white bitches and half-breeds is what nature wants. It has nothing to do with globalism, liberalism or retarded hipsters. One way or the other, people want to venture from their own traditions and interact and then eventually fuck other groups of people.

Either accept it or get your throat slit. Conservatives must use their brains before they speak - 05-11-’11 13:11
@AIDS Victim
"Nationalism isn’t nation-state patriotism"

Er, yes it is. The way of history has been multi-ethnic and multi-national empires, nationalism is a recent thing. @AIDS Victim - 05-11-’11 13:17
Liberals DON'T use their brains before they speak
"nationalism is a recent thing"

yes, in response partially to "multi-ethnic and multi-national empires" which have usually arisen by force. Liberals DON'T use their brains before they speak - 05-11-’11 16:52
@Liberals DON'T use their brains before they speak
What's wrong with force? Nationalism is weakness and laziness. I am not a liberal but an imperialist; the strong and superior, in terms of governance, have the right to rule by conquest--such as the Norman invasion of England that made it into a great nation, the Roman invasions of Gaul which gave civilized a barbarian people. @Liberals DON'T use their brains before they speak - 05-11-’11 22:38
LOL
@"Imperialist" good one, LOL - 06-11-’11 01:19
AIDS Victim
Nationalism is the way all empires and nations arose. If it weren't, we would not have distinct ethnic groups.

What happened in France was actually internationalism, or the idea of replacing nationalism with nation-statism.

Anyone who can't see through that, especially given the definitions linked at pan-nationalism.org, has an honesty problem. AIDS Victim (Email ) - 08-11-’11 05:23
diablo 3 gold
You are a very capable individual! diablo 3 gold (URL) - 26-01-’13 14:53


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