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Rebellions: pointless treason

22 10 11 - 15:59

Rebels are generally those who do not want to acquire power through the current system, but will risk trashing the whole civilization to that end. For this reason, rebellions usually end in disorganization because the rebels know what they don't want, not what they do.


If you really think the banks have a free hand to make money at the expense of the rest of us, you can just go out and buy their stocks right now and make a fortune.

After all, they’ve collapsed. Bank of America’s stock (XNYS:BAC - News) has been halved since the start of the year. At $6.40, the shares are trading at a third of book value (according to FactSet Research), about where they were at the absolute lows in March 2009. (Bank of America just reported $6.2 billion net income in the third quarter, returns on average equity of 22% and Tier One capital — a measure of balance-sheet strength — up to a decent 11.5%. Make of it what you will.)

Citigroup Inc. (XNYS:C) has lost a third of its value this year.

Even the Vampire Squid itself has covered its stockholders in red ink. Shares of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (XNYS:GS - News) have lost a third of their value this year. The stock is trading below book value. - "Why Occupy Wall Street will fail"


It's a good point: banks need shareholders and investors in order to survive.

Which means that if we put half the effort into buying their stock that we put into protesting, they could easily be "owned by The People" within a few days.

The problem is that then, The People would see that banks are run the way they are for a practical reason: it works, and very little else does.

"B-b-b-ut there's a recession," stammers the neo-Communist. Sure. Much like nature, capitalism runs in boom and bust. So what? It rights itself, unless society has choked itself with so many incompetents that they have become parasitic.


The lawyers representing the British team decided that the Americans had no legal grounds for secession. "[President Abraham] Lincoln made the case against secession and he was right."

"The grievances listed in the Declaration were too trivial to justify secession," the British lawyers wrote. "The main one -- no taxation without representation -- was no more than a wish on the part of the colonists, to avoid paying for the expense of protecting them against the French during seven years of arduous war and conflict." - Fox News


I have to agree. Here's an alternate story of the American Revolution:

People saw a profit angle.

During a lean time, they whipped up a frenzy of hatred for their distant leadership. Should be easy.

Fortunately, unlike most revolutions, the rebels had a good plan for the future, thanks to having some truly great minds on their side.

Otherwise, the USA would have been neo-Communist in 1789 just as France was.

Beware of rebellions. With few exceptions, they are the work of incompetents who are too megalomaniac to simply improve the system, and instead want to re-work it in their own image.

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You're slipping, man. Criticizing rebels is one thing, but defending banks? Whatever happened to virtue over selfishness?
The devil is in the details, and for a black metal fan, you seem pretty afraid of that particular devil.

"The problem is that then, The People would see that banks are run the way they are for a practical reason: it works, and very little else does."

The way it's *usually* run has that property. Certain details about how it was run in the last decade do NOT work, and were never designed to have good lasting long-term results, only profit in the short term. And I thought you were a fan of long-term planning.

"Much like nature, capitalism runs in boom and bust. So what?"

It's been shown pretty clearly that this was not a force of nature, but a force of human decisions.

"It rights itself, unless society has choked itself with so many incompetents that they have become parasitic."

As far as I know, recessions like this have never "righted themselves". It's always taken careful effort, planning, and rebuilding. You're slipping, man. Criticizing rebels is one thing, but defending banks? Whatever happened to virtue over selfishness? - 22-10-’11 17:30
sick of white people
YA MAN FUKK MONEY GET HOMIES sick of white people - 22-10-’11 17:46
Proto-Communist?
I'm also surprised to hear you praise the American revolutionaries' minds and plans for the future, since they came up with so many ideas that you hate, such as that all men are created equal, that government should be by the people, that wars should be entered into hesitantly, that the punishment should fit the crime and not be cruel or unusual (you have advocated many times for disproportionately cruel punishments), etc.

Also, a nitpick I guess, but since the French Revolution predated the publication of The Communist Manifesto by more than 50 years, it makes no sense to call the former "neo-Communist". Proto-Communist? - 22-10-’11 19:08
GL
@"proto-communist"( Dave Schuel ) as usual, you are making more than a few assumptions. Question your preconceived ideas...the truth hurts. GL - 22-10-’11 21:06
<span class='registered'>JooPe</span>
@GL, i am curious specifically what preconceived ideas proto-communist has, he is right that 'vijay' here strongly disagrees with all those things. But i'm sure your answer will be sometihng equivalent to "go suck a cock". Surprise me. JooPe (URL) - 23-10-’11 03:28
Aspergerian
Capitalism and communism are both failures.

Why should you go to school for 12 years, go to university for another 4 years and then work until you are 65. Where if you are lucky you'll live for another ten years or so. All the while amassing a lifetime of debt and birthing future serfs into the the mix too.

Communism just ends up with a tyrannical nanny state that treats it's populous like children or cattle. And kills off anyone who disagrees.

Why should we be forced to pick either? Why not abandon both and return to the old ways of doing things? Doesn't ANUS promote traditionalism and a more ancient way of life?

Vijay's conservative view point is getting in the way of the other ideas ANUS has resulting it a lot of WTFs from everyone.

Seriously I thought ANUS was against consumerism and capitalism. Not for banks... Aspergerian - 23-10-’11 08:16
Good guess
@JooPe...Go suck a cock. Good guess - 23-10-’11 10:22
The founding fathers only intended for middle-aged white landowners to have any political power
America may have gone down the tubes but it was at least better than 3rd world anarchy for a century or two. So I guess the founding fathers had fairly decent minds to be able to come up with a state that lasted at least that long, even if they introduced some baggage in the form of less-thought out ideas that would later be horribly misinterpreted. The founding fathers only intended for middle-aged white landowners to have any political power - 25-10-’11 20:30
Reading
Actually, daily life in America in the early days wasn't much to write home about. It WAS pretty anarchic, especially in the inner cities and on the frontier, and it was comparable to most 3rd world socities today, complete with disease, corruption, violence, and injustice. (Don't forget the 1st world/3rd world distinction wasn't even though up yet, and wouldn't be until the Cold War, of which it is an artifact.)

And while they did have inequalities in mind, they obviously had subconscious wisdom beyond their times, since they did not legally encode such requirements anywhere.

But even given that narrow idea of what they had in mind, their ideas are still antithetical to those promoted on this site. Freedom of speech? No cruel punishment? Give me a break! Reading "men" to include black and poor men is not a misinterpretation. - 25-10-’11 20:44


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