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Nihilism, Futurist Traditionalism and Conservationism

More modern silliness

15 09 11 - 12:42

From the it's-ok-we're-all-defectives department:

Greek pederasty was first and foremost an "instructional" institution and one, moreover, that was confined to Athens and, even there, only existed for a limited time. It was in no sense "a Greek value". A closer reading of Vrissimtzis's 90-page study should make even the non-expert wary. Its author seems to belong, with Mr Cornwallis, to that class that doesn't approve of homosexuality. Pederasty, he says, should not be confused with homosexuality because it was "an institution of noble and high ideals". The Greeks as a whole showed a healthy "aversion towards abnormal relations".

Judging from the popularity of the book in Greece, this is a message modern Greeks want to hear. What a pity, then, that it is so much tosh: Mr Vrissimtzis's book rests on a lie that it is important to nail. If there is one book on the sexual lives of the Greeks that all classical scholars honour it is Kenneth Dover's 1978 work, Greek Homosexuality. Dover himself, a brilliant and distinguished classical scholar, is heterosexual but he came to the subject with a refreshingly unbiased mind. ("I am fortunate", he wrote in his preface, "in not experiencing moral shock or disgust at any genital act whatsoever, provided that it is welcome and agreeable to all the participants.") - The Guardian

The point of this post is to illustrate a logical fallacy, not to condemn homosexuality. No really strong opinions there.

However, the above cited passage shows broken logic. He who is most permissive is tolerant, therefore cannot be wrong.


It's a one-way path of approval: if more permissive, it's OK.

They use this as a backdoor (snicker, snicker) into an argument for the supposed universality of this book. Guess what? -- history, like science, has few truly universal books.

Instead, all you've got is modern people pushing their political agenda on the past (unlimited sodomy = good).

And when someone pushes back? The hypocrites accuse the pusher-back of exactly what the hypocrites are doing.

Ah, modernity. A gilded turd, rotting in the sun -- but it can post to Twitter.

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