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Nihilism, Futurist Traditionalism and Conservationism

Ethnic-cultural self determination

16 08 11 - 11:01

"A race of people is like an individual man; until it uses its own talent, takes pride in its own history, expresses its own culture, affirms its own selfhood, it can never fulfill itself." - Malcolm X

Malcolm X is saying: one civilization is needed for black people, and one is needed for white people.

The Klan has historically tried to organize colored divisions. Klan leaders met with Marcus Mosiah Garvey and gave a monetary gift to Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam. The Socialist Party and the Klan formed a 1924 alliance in Milwaukee to elect John Kleist, a socialist and a klansman, to the Wisconsin Supreme Court. The Klan has at times appealed to militant workers.

I believe to be reactionary is fatal to our goals and I constantly preach against it. I encourage the study of left-wing and right-wing movements. I say we should take what we can from every source.


It was back in 1985 when I first met Osiris Akkebala, Chief Elder of the Pan-Afrikan International Movement (PAIN). Chief Akkebala hosted a radio show in an all-black community where we had a scheduled demonstration. PAIN follows a Garvian philosophy, and understanding that Marcus Garvey had met with the Klan in the 1920s, Chief Osiris approached me for a private meeting. We hit it off well and have been good friends ever since.

Sometime in 1990 we began holding joint demonstrations--the Klan in their robes and the Africans in their dashikis. Needless to say it sparked quite a backlash. Many klansmen were angry at me for even considering such a thing. In my view it was a match inspired by God. Why should we have a problem with black men who are strict racial separatists and want to establish a homeland on the continent of Africa? I have even publicly endorsed the payment of reparations to blacks but only for the purpose of repatriation back to Africa.

I believe that all people have a right to self-determination, a right to choose their own government, and their own religion. Clearly, blacks in America have not had those opportunities. As Minister Louis Farrakhan said: "If we can't get along together, then we need to separate."

I'm a revolutionary white separatist, not a white supremacist. I don't feel superior to any man because of the color of my skin but I understand that the Aryan people (making up only about eight percent of the world population) must have a separate land uninfluenced by other races or by the criminal government that occupies Washington D.C. I'm not naive enough to believe we can get it without a very bloody struggle. - John Baumgardner, Revolutionary Klansman

Nationalism for one group means nationalism for all, which means each group gets self-rule and its own state.

The enemy of nationalism is internationalism, or the idea that none of us get our own group, but we all become members of a mixed-race, cultureless, valueless society ruled by consumerism and a strong centralized Nanny State bureaucracy.

Nationalism is not racism; nationalism is cultural separation through ethnic group, which is a genetic record of culture.

Pan-nationalism, or world nationalism, is the idea that each ethnic-cultural group (joined by language, heritage and culture) deserves its own nation. Pan-nationalism suggests that no nationalist can afford to work only for his or her own tribe, but must realize that all tribes are joined in the same quest: to bring about a nationalist order on earth. Our enemy is not each other. Our enemy is the system of "modern society" that exploits us. Our goal is to re-structure modern society to keep its good aspects (technology) and weed out its destructive aspects. This is achieved by putting culture before commerce in every nation on earth, and our method of reaching this is Pan-Nationalism. - Pan-Nationalism

This is what every ethnic group wants: a common standard of values, customs, language, common sense, aesthetics and heritage.

This means each person knows what behavior is rewarded by the group, and how to be a good person.

The attempts of the internationalists to develop a "universal morality" have resulted in a permissiveness which makes for a miserable society.

Instead, we need a common social standard; to have that, we must have culture.

This has other benefits -- with a common social standard, we can embark on effective environmental activity by making it part of our cultural values; without a cultural standard, we cannot have this, which is why "green activism" up until now has consisted in making rules that few obey and most ignore:

We believe that true ecological sustainability may require a rethinking of our values as a society. Present assumptions about economics, development, and the place of human beings in the natural order must be reevaluated. If we are to achieve ecological sustainability, Nature can no longer be viewed only as a commodity; it must be seen as a partner and model in all human enterprise.

We begin with the premise that life on Earth has entered its most precarious phase in history. We speak of threats not only to human life, but to the lives of all species of plants and animals, as well as the health and continued viability of the biosphere. It is the awareness of the present condition that primarily motivates our activities.

We believe that current problems are largely rooted in the following circumstances:

  • The loss of traditional knowledge, values, and ethics of behavior that celebrate the intrinsic value and sacredness of the natural world and that give the preservation of Nature prime importance. Correspondingly, the assumption of human superiority to other life forms, as if we were granted royalty status over Nature; the idea that Nature is mainly here to serve human will and purpose.

  • The prevailing economic and development paradigms of the modern world, which place primary importance on the values of the market, not on Nature. The conversion of nature to commodity form, the emphasis upon economic growth as a panacea, the industrialization of all activity, from forestry to farming to fishing, even to education and culture; the drive to economic globalization, cultural homogenization, commodity accumulation, urbanization, and human alienation. All of these are fundamentally incompatible with ecological or biological sustainability on a finite Earth.

  • Technology worship and an unlimited faith in the virtues of science; the modern paradigm that technological development is inevitable, invariably good, and to be equated with progress and human destiny. From this, we are left dangerously uncritical, blind to profound problems that technology and science have wrought, and in a state of passivity that confounds democracy.

  • Overpopulation, in both the overdeveloped and the underdeveloped worlds, placing unsustainable burdens upon biodiversity and the human condition.

As our name suggests, we are influenced by the Deep Ecology Platform, which helps guide and inform our work. We believe that values other than market values must be recognized and given importance, and that Nature provides the ultimate measure by which to judge human endeavors. - Foundation for Deep Ecology

We either pick this future, or we have a dismal future of anarchic liberal politics and capitalist consumerist manipulation of our land, selves and communities.

from Recombinant Records

nine comments

http://www.trinicenter.com/WorldNews/ghandi4.htm Arvid - 17-08-’11 09:56
http://www.facebook.com/pages/You-Know-You-Grew-Up-in-India-in-the-90s-When/111238285575528?sk=info अमरीका - 17-08-’11 10:15
You're forgetting that Malcolm X changed his racist ideology to one of multiculturalism after his pilgrimgae to mecca, but don't let prozak fool you...

White preservation is garbage and so is this idea that we have to separae the races in order to appease a white majority... Adrian - 17-08-’11 12:31
Fuck off
This website is a joke, and so is nationalism...

Just because "The crowd' doesn't like your shitty black metal band or does not listen to classical music, does mean we have to separate the races...MOTHERFUCK RACIAL SEPARATISM!!!

If you want to reduce the fucking Earth's population then do so and be done with it...You'll never stop race mixing however... Fuck off - 17-08-’11 12:35
Asperger's Activism
Appease a white majority? Screw that.

How about a more sensible order for everyone? Asperger's Activism (Email ) - 17-08-’11 14:31
you have far too much time on your hands ( must be nice )
Dave, pretending that you are not still here in order to make it look like more people agree with you is pathetic. By the way, your rants are sounding a lot like the fascists that you claim to hate so much. Be careful about projecting your own issues on others. you have far too much time on your hands ( must be nice ) - 17-08-’11 15:33
A whole ethnic group, which jointly typed this.
"This is what every ethnic group wants: a common standard of values, customs, language, common sense, aesthetics and heritage."

Right. Even if none of the *members* of those ethnic groups want that. A whole ethnic group, which jointly typed this. (Email ) - 17-08-’11 19:58
Fuck Off
Saying that NONE of the members of those ethnic groups want that is a little much. In this regard you are speaking for yourself. You have already sold your soul. Fuck Off - 18-08-’11 00:04
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