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Human sacrifice: enlightened

07 07 11 - 18:02

Many mysteries are not that mysterious.


Thousands of human bones have been found inside a Stone Age tomb on a northern Scottish island, archaeologists say.

The 5,000-year-old burial site, on South Ronaldsay (map) in the Orkney Islands, was accidentally uncovered after a homeowner had leveled a mound in his yard to improve his ocean view.

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Meanwhile, recent studies of remains from the nearby Tomb of the Eagles suggest that life among Orkney's Neolithic community of cattle farmers was much less harmonious than previously thought.

At least 20 percent of skulls from that 5,000-year-old site—about a mile from the Tomb of the Otters—show signs of trauma consistent with violent blows from sharp and blunt-edged weapons. - National Geographic


This is a kind of mass grave, visited rarely, as if people were brought there every now and then and pitched in.

Interesting.

They are all ages.

Also interesting.

And we think some of them may have signs of violence, if not to the head, elsewhere.

Sounds like another cultural artifact:


The bones of six humans—including two children—jade beads, shells, and stone tools are among the Maya "treasures" recently found in a water-filled cave off a sinkhole at the famous archaeological site of Chichén Itzá (picture) in Mexico, archaeologists say.

The ancient objects are most likely related to a ritual human sacrifice during a time when water levels were lower, sometime between A.D. 850 and 1250, the researchers say.

It's "very improbable" that the remains and artifacts were "just tossed" into the sinkhole, known as a cenote, expedition leader Guillermo Anda told National Geographic News in an email. Rather, he said, they were likely placed there during a ceremony to appease the Maya rain god, Chaak. - National Geographic


Human sacrifice takes many forms, but generally one purpose: eugenics.

If Dave is a total retard, or a predator, or even just a career criminal, what do you do? Same thing you do with a rabid dog: euthanize.

To do this, you tell him the gods have called him home. He's going to the land of Endless Free Dope and Boobies.

You drug the hell out of him, feed him well, then cut out his heart and offer it to the gods. Then toss the bones into your ritual chamber to explain lack of burial and give them a special place.

If Dave is mentally retarded or criminal, you might do it to his whole family.

This is more enlightened than our punitive system now where we have to create a show trial, and wait for the idiot to finally kill someone, before we can lock them up for life at $50,000/year or stop their hearts with fancy drugs.

Save several million dollars, and do what all the smart people in the room know needs to be done anyway.

If Dave is retarded, deformed, criminal, perverse, predatory, parasitic, obese or otherwise pathological, he is a broken animal.

Death is probably happier for him, especially if you give his family an excuse to say the gods needed him.


However, there’s another issue that cannot be packaged up as a legal case: Casey Anthony is unfit to be a parent. She is the type of person most middle class people do not want in their neighborhoods.

Our law doesn’t let us say that we should spay Casey Anthony, or that we should be able to exile people like her from our towns and cities. After all, she has the “right” and “freedom” to be wherever she can afford to buy, and to conduct her disaster of a life however she wants — even the dumbest American learned this at school.

But we don’t have an outlet for what she took from us. She took away our ability to live in a community where a child’s life is sacred, and we think people who think otherwise need to move along to somewhere else. She took from us the ability to set community standards.

All of the media outrage is fake, and the “solutions” like “Caylee’s law” are stupid. We don’t need more laws; we need more common sense, and fewer stupid people. Fewer rights and more responsibilities. Fewer politicians and media manipulators telling us we need more rights and laws.

Caylee was a doomed child. Of bad genetics, born into a bad family, in a bad situation. Casey Anthony is a failure. Her life is a constant disaster and will continue to be a constant disaster. Both Casey and Caylee would be better off dead. - Amerika


A maxim for a healthier time:

To each according to his due and process in the hierarchy attaining the goal.


  • For those who contribute, that is contribution.


  • For those who do nothing, that is nothing.


  • For those who damage, that is damage.



It is even more civilized to give them a final method of giving back through their loss of life.

We are told human sacrifice is inhuman, but what if it were a greater form of humanity?

24 comments

Nihilists get to make up their own facts?
"Human sacrifice takes many forms, but generally one purpose: eugenics."

If you're such an accomplished time traveler, why did you need the National Geographic source? Nihilists get to make up their own facts? (Email ) - 07-07-’11 19:54
Common sense.
Common sense tells us that we can't trust people to always use common sense, or even agree on what common sense is.

That's why we need laws and politicians. Common sense. (Email ) - 07-07-’11 20:01
Eugenics is eugenics
I'm sure the natives didn't want these people to have children. Eugenics is eugenics - 07-07-’11 22:31
Eugenics is a specific doctrine of the early 20th century and not applicable to other situations.
We don't have enough information to have any idea what their motives were. It could by contrast be that they were deliberately sacrificing a virtuous person to the gods, because they would accept nothing less. Or the victim could have been chosen at random. Making up facts is just that. Eugenics is a specific doctrine of the early 20th century and not applicable to other situations. (Email ) - 07-07-’11 23:13
Truth > Simplified political message
"Human sacrifice takes many forms, but generally one purpose: eugenics."

This statement reflects the casually reductive tendencies of some writers on this website. I don't actually have a problem with eugenics; however, it's just a little bit irresponsible to reduce as broad a phenomenon as sacrifice (human or otherwise) to eugenics. The fact of the matter is that we know that some cultures sacrificed their most virtuous members. For instance, there is some evidence that the Vedic sacrificial ritual had human sacrifice as its prototype, and that the subject in this case had to be willing in order to mirror the 'self-sacrifice' of the creative divine force, Purusa/Prajnapati. In this case, the sacrificial subject would have come from the highest ranks of Aryan society.

This doesn't 'prove' that sacrifice hasn't been used for purposes roughly similar to eugenics. However, it indicates that there is more behind the idea than this relatively pragmatic, slightly cynical motivation you're attributing to it. Truth > Simplified political message - 07-07-’11 23:51
Anonymous
There are even examples of massgraves on the European mainland filled with mesolithic people killed by agriculturalists : literal ethnic cleansing. Anonymous - 08-07-’11 02:29
Proziumll
It is better to have to no answer to their questions, just questions their demands. How society should function is not for yopu to deceide. Human interaction on this scale is infintly complex. You basicly remind me of myself in highschool as a middleclass spoiled white boy. Just kill everybody who is a failure. Get out in the world man. Live for real. It's ok to be Nihilist without angsty hatred for the world. Proziumll (Email ) - 08-07-’11 02:46
@Proziumll
You write like a retard and it's not about being angst ridden it's about improving the human stock at this point. We have way too many humans that are ruining the world. What's more retards and pedophiles, etc. are rotten and do nothing to better humanity, so why have them around? You write like a leftist too with "spoiled middle-class white boy". Go back to reading Marx Jewdler. @Proziumll - 08-07-’11 03:50
Diversity Fails
All those bog mummies, deformed skeletons in Mayan cenotes, Roman sacrifices with evidence of leprosy, etc. are false because one book I read once suggested that possibly many sacrifices were made in a grand spirit of emotion toward the gods.

It's bad to think about eugenics. Why not work on practical problems, like giving money to the poor?

At this website, you guys really distill complex situations down to simple answers, where I prefer we keep it all up in the air.

That way, we'll never know what the truth was, and we can keep goofing off. Diversity Fails (Email ) - 08-07-’11 05:06
Jim Necroslaughter
"sacrificing a virtuous person to the gods, because they would accept nothing less."

well, in that Aztec sport to the death, the LOSER was sacrificed, not the winner. one example. Jim Necroslaughter - 08-07-’11 05:15
That South Park baseball episode notwithstanding.
Well, it's kinda hard to get a game going if it's the other way around. That South Park baseball episode notwithstanding. (Email ) - 08-07-’11 12:06
Spartans as proto-egenicists?
They killed off their deformed children out of practicality. Too bad they didn't record any signs of vigor in their populations(SAFTEY: if any signs of it LOL) as time went on. Spartans as proto-egenicists? - 09-07-’11 00:06
justin bieber
Even if the ancients didn't practice eugenics, the point is we should now given that mental retardation, pedophilia, cowardice, obesity, etc. are plaguing the world and we are overrun in dross. The only people uncertain of eugenics or culling are those who fear they themselves are inferior and thus may become victims. No one nowadays will willingly allow themselves to be culled, just like no cow with a serious disease would on a farm. Yet the farmer must remove the bad from the good, and sow only good seeds. I don't need any abstract theories to know this. It furthers human evolution to do so towards that Myattian Homo Galactica state. He who stands atop the highest pyramid of skulls sees the furthest. justin bieber - 09-07-’11 07:11
Let's start the culling with eugenicists who don't study genetics.
So now cowardice is genetic? Oy. Let's start the culling with eugenicists who don't study genetics. (Email ) - 09-07-’11 08:59
DaveIsSlowlyStartingToMaybeGetItMaybe
So you at least agree we _can_ get started with the culling/killing. DaveIsSlowlyStartingToMaybeGetItMaybe - 09-07-’11 10:02
Let the games begin.
You can try. It cuts both ways. My idea of the ideal human is the one who would never think of culling/killing, so we'll be working in opposite directions. Let the games begin. (Email ) - 09-07-’11 13:03
White people have weak skin.
"The only people uncertain of eugenics or culling are those who fear they themselves are inferior and thus may become victims."

Yeah, well, that would be everyone.

Everyone is a potential victim. Because everyone has some quality that someone else considers unacceptable, whether it's some genuine imperfection (which everyone has), or just something that someone else arbitrarily doesn't like.

"No one nowadays will willingly allow themselves to be culled,"

As opposed to when? White people have weak skin. (Email ) - 09-07-’11 13:48
sick of white people
I'm pretty fucking sick of how useless white people are.

Blacks aren't afraid to murder each other for money, but whites have to pretend they're above those "animal" behaviors and think they should make black people act white.

WRONG. We need white people to act with some fucking balls. sick of white people - 09-07-’11 19:36
@White people have weak skin.
I can tell from your name you're probably another whitey hater, but all that aside:

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Everyone is a potential victim. Because everyone has some quality that someone else considers unacceptable, whether it’s some genuine imperfection (which everyone has), or just something that someone else arbitrarily doesn’t like."

Yea as if eugenics is just taking some random human quality then killing all people like it. Oh boy someone has blue eyes let kill them, etc. All those with diseased character should be culled, they choose themselves by being cowards, dishonorable, traitorous, etc. In regards of mental retards they contribute nothing to society so kill them. These "victims" are hardly random and chosen based on stupid things.

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As opposed to when?"

According to the tradition I follow in the past those being culled where asked to be culled voluntarily where after death they would gain more knowledge. Before they died they would father a child with any women they desired. It was always a male in their 21st year. Or you could google this and find it out for yourself.

And lastly, fuck you whitey hater. So I'm middle-class like 90% of the fucking world. People living in poverty because of a crack addiction I could care less about. Fucking Marxist scum. @White people have weak skin. - 10-07-’11 07:20
@White people have weak skin
"So now cowardice is genetic? Oy."

No dumb ass, retardation is genetic, alcoholism is genetic, etc. cowardice is just plain undesirable and doesn't contribute to humanity in anyway imaginable. If you disagree then you are a fucking sub-human. Eugenics/culling is improving the human stock. @White people have weak skin - 10-07-’11 07:24
Everyone knows who it's at, idiot.
"Yea as if eugenics is just taking some random human quality then killing all people like it."

In practice, that's exactly what it is, and would continue to be. That's because the humans making the decisions are always imperfect (at best).

"All those with diseased character should be culled"

Case in point. As if there's an objective measure of "diseased character".

"Or you could google this and find it out for yourself."

Based on what? "the tradition I follow"?

"retardation is genetic, alcoholism is genetic,"

Nope and debatable.

"cowardice is just plain undesirable and doesn’t contribute to humanity in anyway imaginable."

So what? If it's not genetic, then it makes no sense to include them in a eugenics plan.

(Careful how you respond. You don't want to seem stupid do you? You know what happens then. Unless you're too stupid.) Everyone knows who it's at, idiot. (Email ) - 10-07-’11 09:54
And fuck you too idiot
"In practice, that’s exactly what it is, and would continue to be. That’s because the humans making the decisions are always imperfect (at best)."

Yea because getting rid of mental retards, pedophiles, serial killers, etc. is a bad decision.

"Case in point. As if there’s an objective measure of “diseased character”."

There is actually. Pedophiles have diseased character for example.

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Nope and debatable."

IQ is 80 percent genetic, alcoholism was discovered to have a large genetic component. Mainstream science agrees IQ is almost entirely genetic except in severe cases of malnutrition.

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So what? If it’s not genetic, then it makes no sense to include them in a eugenics plan."

Yea it's not genetic but cowards are still useless to society.

"
(Careful how you respond. You don’t want to seem stupid do you? You know what happens then. Unless you’re too stupid.)"

I'm not too stupid my IQ is 123. I'm not a genius, but I'm around the 95th percentile. IQ doesn't matter to you anyways, that's why all the retards with 40 IQ win Nobel Prizes and such LOL.

How can you defend cowardice, alcoholism, mental retardation, pedophilia, etc as desirable traits anyways?

We are overpopulated, if we don't get rid of some humans then we'll run out of natural resources, and destroy a lot of nature. 50 per cent of all mammals and birds will be extinct in another 40 years. We obviously can't get rid of geniuses and such now can we? And fuck you too idiot - 11-07-’11 07:19
JooPe
More idiocy in this post, not only making a blatant (mis)assumption about the nature of all human sacrifice but proudly proclaiming "Kill everyone i don't like!". For one although somewhat burdenous to society individuals born retarded are not undeserving of the right to live, and provide a role by giving us a reason to exercise our empathy/humanity. Secondly, it's obvious that people such as Steven Hawking would be executed under your application of eugenics which is obviously an atavistic throwback of Nazi ideology. When did ANUS.com devolve into total crap? JooPe - 10-08-’11 06:35
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