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Houllebecq versus Burroughs

28 03 11 - 08:03

Slightly older, but:


On Society

Houellebecq

I don’t like this world. I definitely do not like it. The society in which I live disgusts me; advertising sickens me; computers make me puke.

Burroughs

America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers.

The Future of Humanity

Houellebecq

Few beings have ever been so impregnated, pierced to the core, by the conviction of the absolute futility of human aspiration. The universe is nothing but a furtive arrangement of elementary particles. A figure in transition toward chaos. That is what will finally prevail. The human race will disappear. Other races in turn will appear and disappear. And human actions are as free and as stripped of meaning as the unfettered movements of the elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, sentiments? Pure ‘Victorian fictions.’ All that exists is egotism. Cold, intact, and radiant.

Burroughs

Man is an artifact designed for space travel. He is not designed to remain in his present biologic state any more than a tadpole is designed to remain a tadpole.

Youth and Dreams

Houellebecq


Adolescence is not only an important period in life, but that it is the only period where one may speak of life in the full sense of the word.

Burroughs

As a young child I wanted to be a writer because writers were rich and famous. They lounged around Singapore and Rangoon smoking opium in a yellow pongee silk suit. They sniffed cocaine in Mayfair and they penetrated forbidden swamps with a faithful native boy and lived in the native quarter of Tangier smoking hashish and languidly caressing a pet gazelle.

Influence

Houellebecq

I’ve lived so little that I tend to imagine I’m not going to die; it seems improbable that human existence can be reduced to so little; one imagines, in spite of oneself, that sooner or later something is bound to happen. A big mistake. A life can just as well be both empty and short. The days slip by indifferently, leaving neither trace nor memory; and then all of a sudden they stop.

Burroughs

I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.


Sex

Houellebecq

In a perfectly liberal sexual system, some people have an exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude.

Burroughs

There is nothing more provocative than minding your own business.

Love

Houellebecq

Love binds, and it binds forever. Good binds while evil unravels. Separation is another word for evil; it is also another word for deceit.

Burroughs


Love? What is it? Most natural painkiller. What there is. LOVE. - Source: Thought Catalog



Reminds me to remind you to read this interview at the Paris Review.

eight comments

Adrian McCoy
Mankinds destiny is to wipe out juggalos and korn fans...I hope... Adrian McCoy - 28-03-’11 15:52
Adrian
i don't hate prozak, i hate that as a metalhead, he does not concentrate his energry on the bands that are really destroying the metal scene...pantera and cannibal corpse will never suck as bad as korn does...ever!!!1 Adrian - 28-03-’11 15:54
Adrian Loves Pantera
I don't hate Adrian McCoy, it's just that as a "metalhead," he focuses on the most blatant offenders, rather than directing his attentions to the less obvious (and therefore much worse) contributors to decay and idiocy in metal music.

ever1!!!1 Adrian Loves Pantera - 29-03-’11 03:15
Lonely Bastard
Thanks for the link to that interview. Houllebecq is great and I definitely look forward to reading more of his stuff. Lonely Bastard - 29-03-’11 03:25
fuckanustocore
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2204646797&topic=4846 fuckanustocore - 31-03-’11 03:49
Kāśyapa
For a cynical outlook on our times, neither of these above two are needed for those who come here for answers. If actually in question, Burroughs wins with a cold snout, Houellebecq is just... French, and wordy.

Much more light is shed in the previous post; of three shards, I choose that which reflects equanimously but cuts sharper unworn. Kāśyapa - 01-04-’11 13:55
Dave
"he focuses on the most blatant offenders, rather than directing his attentions to the less obvious (and therefore much worse) contributors to decay and idiocy in metal music."

First of all, why are the less obvious ones automatically much worse than the more obvious?

Second, Metal has idiocy as part of its roots, going back to the beginning. It has evolved in some directions into a meaningful art form, but it's disingenuous to deny its other role, in other forms, as mindless escapist music. And it would be more detrimental to metal to try to destroy those elements than to tolerate them, because the former would probably lead to the death of the more meaningful types of metal as well.

Third, why focus on bands you don't like at all, whether mainstream or (more) underground? Dave (Email ) - 05-04-’11 16:43
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