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Modern logic fail

27 11 10 - 05:46


Secondhand smoke kills more than 600,000 people worldwide every year, according to a new study.

In the first look at the global impact of secondhand smoking, researchers analyzed data from 2004 for 192 countries. They found 40 percent of children and more than 30 percent of non-smoking men and women regularly breathe in secondhand smoke.

Scientists then estimated that passive smoking causes about 379,000 deaths from heart disease, 165,000 deaths from lower respiratory disease, 36,900 deaths from asthma and 21,400 deaths from lung cancer a year. - AP


They estimated it, based on assuming that no other factors were important.

"This guy here lives next to a nuclear power plant, and he's got cancer. It must be secondhand smoke! Scientists estimated it!"

They keep you living in fear, forever in fear, of the little things, so that you don't notice the big ones.

eigthteen comments

Dave
Would you please think before you post?

They gathered a large amount data from a wide range of circumstances.

That will cancel out the effect of the one guy near the power plant, dufus. Dave (Email ) - 27-11-’10 12:04
Estigmnt
600'000 people die from second hand smoke, I think what the poster is trying to say is, that if of these 600'000 people they research what other factors were involved that caused their deaths rather than the second hand smoke alone, the statistics would be substanialy lower. Estigmnt (Email ) - 27-11-’10 13:34
Dave
Estigmnt, then you'd also have to account for how many people who didn't die also had those other factors in their lives, in which case the percentage would most likely stay the same.

It's just the way statistics is done. Dave (Email ) - 27-11-’10 14:11
oskar
either way it all boils down to there being absolutely nothing wrong with modern society right dave. oskar - 27-11-’10 22:32
Dave
I don't know if I'd say that. But nothing remotely on the order that the main articles of this site propose. It has its problems, sure. But most of the problems are not the ones bemoaned on this site. And at any rate, going backwards is almost never the correct solution. Dave (Email ) - 27-11-’10 22:45
Tom
People shouldn't be smoking in the first place. Smokers stink and are a public nuisance. Have fun inhaling toxic chemicals outside losers, since you can't smoke indoors anymore. PS smoking didn't make you seem cool, you all still are losers. Tom - 28-11-’10 04:25
Oh The Humaninanity
"And at any rate, going backwards is almost never the correct solution."

Only if you assume we almost never make wrong decisions.

When you make a wrong decision, reverse course and try something else. Oh The Humaninanity (Email ) (URL) - 28-11-’10 09:14
DAve - o - Fag
"It has its problems, sure."

Like EV1L OPPRESSION AND RACISM AM I RIGHT?? DAve - o - Fag - 28-11-’10 15:58
Brunhilde
Dont forget inequalities LOL!

sum people are like, poor and hungry and we should like help them lol!


YAY GO NORWAY!!!!!!!!!! Brunhilde - 28-11-’10 15:59
butt hash
well your site isn't letting me contact you but i just wanted to let you know that morbid visions was released in 1986 not 85 you nutsack thanks for getting my hopes up butt hash - 29-11-’10 02:16
that Dave is the only intelligent person here. :D
I think..... that Dave is the only intelligent person here. :D - 29-11-’10 05:20
Jermey
This article was written by a dirty smoker who wants to justify their smoking. Jermey (Email ) - 29-11-’10 09:41
Serdris
Smoking kills yes. Smokers also are significantly less able to perfom athletically. And it may very well be that the author is trying to justify this habit. But the point is still a good one: that a correlation doesn't automatically prove you right, and can be misleading if you don't recognize the actual cause of a problem. Perhaps smoking causes other issues, to which smoking isn't currently considered a factor. Never a bad idea to think outside the box. Serdris - 30-11-’10 12:21
ANUS-Logic-Fail
"Derr forget the toxins I'm putting in other peoples lungs and in the atmosphere, the scientists are just "speculating" that secondhand smoke is bad. I'm smerter than the rest of these morons and not a moron myself!" ANUS-Logic-Fail - 30-11-’10 21:05
faggot
bestial devastation was released in '85. the combo album didn't come out until '91 so i guess you're a nutsack too... faggot - 01-12-’10 00:38
smok
Ive been smoking for a long time but still my athletically performance is way better than average. smok (Email ) - 01-12-’10 10:12
Dave
"Only if you assume we almost never make wrong decisions.

When you make a wrong decision, reverse course and try something else."

If it's clear that that decision is what led to bad happening, and led to nothing good happening, then yes.

But you only reverse *that decision*. You don't use it as an excuse to reverse other processes whose effects were good or neutral.

And in many cases, you don't go back to the way things were, but rather to a third thing, different both from what came before and the most recent decision.

Example: clearly the third reich was a bad form of government for Germany.

But the solution was not to go back to the Weimar or Bisark forms.

Rather, it was to go to a third form, constitutional democracy, and Germany has prospered as a result. Dave (Email ) - 02-12-’10 10:09
b-hash
...yeah well you wouldn't know that by looking at the dark legions page since it shows the morbid visions cover with "copyright 1985" below it. but knowing bestial devastation came out in 85 makes up for it i guess. yeah my bad i did kind of look like a fagheim there but anyway, total penile douche oinky as you exhale on cruella deville's most pustular eyefarm wand buried inside the moon's forever-smoked feet arching ishtar's malaria womb b-hash - 04-12-’10 07:27


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