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 on: November 20, 2009, 09:24:20 PM 
Started by FenrizTheBrazilianTranny - Last post by threads
Quote from: Istaev on November 20, 2009, 07:59:59 PM
I'm not sure we've had an "era" this last decade. You can't point to a nation or region which was putting out quality stuff semi-consistently. You can't really even identify a novel musical approach or style in recent memory which is worth discussing. There have been quality releases in the last 10 years but no pioneering works.

Agreed, somewhat, but there have been a few works which will herald the next great movement in Metal.  Shall we list them here, or in the other thread?  These albums have not been ground-breaking, but I can see people creating ground-breaking works based upon these albums.

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 on: November 20, 2009, 09:02:07 PM 
Started by wahn - Last post by K. Sear
Quote from: scourge on November 20, 2009, 08:41:05 PM
It's better to start with simpler concepts like strength, precision, speed, and endurance. Just get your body moving against resistance. Get a handle on nutrition and live it. Then, get acquainted with some war tactics and strategy to get your head programmed. After these baby's first steps the slobber bib can come off and you can start thinking about schools and styles. The untrained, the lazy couch potatos, and the pacifist conflict avoiders tend to have no idea how helpless they really are.

I completely disagree with that.  Of course basic fitness is useful to all aspects of life, but to suggest that it is needed before beginning an education in martial arts is inaccurate.  I've instructed a number of very unfit individuals and their skills, both mental and physical, progress similar to anyone else.  So, fitness will come and the necessary mental aspects will already be in place.

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 on: November 20, 2009, 08:45:38 PM 
Started by wahn - Last post by Octuple
You're actually defending utilitarianism , because you're equating a specific culture as consequence of a specific production system.

Otherwise you have to show how socialism does produce Culture by itself (with examples).

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 on: November 20, 2009, 08:41:05 PM 
Started by wahn - Last post by scourge
It's better to start with simpler concepts like strength, precision, speed, and endurance. Just get your body moving against resistance. Get a handle on nutrition and live it. Then, get acquainted with some war tactics and strategy to get your head programmed. After these baby's first steps the slobber bib can come off and you can start thinking about schools and styles. The untrained, the lazy couch potatos, and the pacifist conflict avoiders tend to have no idea how helpless they really are.

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 on: November 20, 2009, 08:35:00 PM 
Started by Istaev - Last post by Istaev
Quote from: wahn on November 19, 2009, 10:02:28 AM
I suggest you find a high ranking traditional chinese martial arts master and train under him. The military is an entirely secular institution whose sole purpose is to defend (whatever that means) a country. Do you really want to put your life on the line so that Exxon Mobil has access to oil? Dont believe all these idfeals people construct around war.  It has nothing to do with the mental and spiritual  (ie ethical) growth. Becoming a complete person is something eastern culture has pursued for 5000 years in very tangible and embodied ways (zazen, qi gong, kung fu) and is, philosophicall, far superior to anything you will learn at the military if personal growth is your goal.

a. I raised the idea of joining the military for personal reasons, not ideological reasons. My concern is for character building in the Aristotelian sense and learning martial values (which Westerners lack) through complete immersion in them, at least temporarily.
b. not to knock 'em too much but traditional martial arts aren't practical in any objective sense and eastern philosophy is less applicable (and arguably inferior) than western philosophy as well as some Hindu schools (notably Advaita Vedanta).
c. I advocate understanding your own culture before exploring another's.

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 on: November 20, 2009, 08:29:39 PM 
Started by wahn - Last post by Octuple
A lot of traditional martial artists are nothing but  delusional LARPers.

I prefer to do MMA and to study Lao Tzu, Sun Tzu, Bruce Lee's texts, Mushashi Miyamoto, traditional western fighting-manuals, etc.

Then, if you can't find any philosophy in a good MMA fight,  it's your fault.



Btw, check this out, it'll blow your mind. For those that think that martial arts are just eastern stuff: http://www.thearma.org/manuals.htm

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 on: November 20, 2009, 07:59:59 PM 
Started by FenrizTheBrazilianTranny - Last post by Istaev
I'm not sure we've had an "era" this last decade. You can't point to a nation or region which was putting out quality stuff semi-consistently. You can't really even identify a novel musical approach or style in recent memory which is worth discussing. There have been quality releases in the last 10 years but no pioneering works.

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 on: November 20, 2009, 07:54:24 PM 
Started by Conservationist - Last post by nekromantas
This will rule.

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 on: November 20, 2009, 07:40:39 PM 
Started by wahn - Last post by K. Sear
Quote from: wahn on November 20, 2009, 07:21:51 PM
From a purely practical self defense / winning a fight perspective: what martial arts would people hererecommned for someone who is short and chubby, or someone who is tall and thin. Ive already been studying southern shaolin kung fu for some years now (on and off i hate to admit)  but would be very much interested in how those of you knowledgeable in martial arts select a system based on physique.

I'm not sure that any pure martial art can be viewed in a straight up "winning a fight" perspective (that's where the MMA crowd comes in, with the greater focus on combat and less on philosophy and overall form).  The closest would probably be a grappling style like judo or jiu jitsu.

Shotkan karate is a style designed for long distance striking and will naturally favour a tall individual.  Gojo ryu karate is a close in style that would probably be easier for a shorter person, but I know little about it.  Throwing arts also tend to favour shorter people since the principle is often to get your centre of gravity lower than your opponent's.

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 on: November 20, 2009, 07:21:51 PM 
Started by wahn - Last post by wahn
From a purely practical self defense / winning a fight perspective: what martial arts would people hererecommned for someone who is short and chubby, or someone who is tall and thin. Ive already been studying southern shaolin kung fu for some years now (on and off i hate to admit)  but would be very much interested in how those of you knowledgeable in martial arts select a system based on physique.

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