Deathcore/Death Metal

[RedReign]

It's really quite simple.

Here is the apex of what metal is.



The further things diverge from this apex, the less metal they are.

Here is deathcore:



They're trying very hard to be metal but they are about as metal as The Everly Brothers.

[Heydrich]

It's really quite simple.

Here is the apex of what metal is.



The further things diverge from this apex, the less metal they are.

Here is deathcore:







They're trying very hard to be metal but they are about as metal as The Everly Brothers.

Indeed, the old saw about a picture speaking a thousand words certainly holds 100% true here!!

[Devamitra]

It is interesting, but let's remember that a regular band of any era would have operated according to some sort of "street fashion code" of its respective era and culture, whether through assimilation or opposition.



But what I think a cultural historian would note, is that the essential thread that made both Beherit and these more normal death metal guys representatives of the Hessian culture in the early 90's, is lacking in practically all mainstream metal of today. Whereas even something like Megadeth in the old days could have been traced somewhere along the lineage of that culture.



To put it in simple terms, the Hessians tended to look like members of a tribe. The deathcore culture, as represented by that As Blood... picture, is like something from a teens fashion magazine.

[Heydrich]

The deathcore culture, as represented by that As Blood... picture, is like something from a teens fashion magazine.

Quite right - in fact that is largely what it is - just look at the footwear alone! I don't know who that silly band is honestly, but if I didn't know better I would have thought it was and Emo/teeny-bopper MTV band or some such. Contrast that with say, the pic on the back of Deicide's Legion...was there ever any question what manner of music was to be expected therein?!

[RedReign]

Hessians tended to look like members of a tribe.

That tribe is called "Getting stoned under the railway trestle."

If nothing else, those emo kids would be given away by their footwear.

[thrust]

This thread could easily be tied into the screamo thread. Theres no difference it seems between deathcore and screamo, emo, numetal core or whatever.Except maybe deathcore has
that slightly southern twang drill sergeant thing sometimes.

[flayedandskinned]

simple.

let me break it down for you;

ALL Deathcore = YUCK


a good amount of Death Metal = TASTY AS FUCK.



 

[esoteric]

What I hate is when headlining death metal bands tour with deathcore bands. The two music styles have nothing in common besides distortion and growls. What do the promoters think, that we just like to see tough guys prancing round on stage screaming? Promoters and tour managers need to stop grouping bands together by aesthetics. I'd rather see Bob Dylan touring with Suffocation, at least the two make intelligent music.

[heather]

What I hate is when headlining death metal bands tour with deathcore bands. The two music styles have nothing in common besides distortion and growls. What do the promoters think, that we just like to see tough guys prancing round on stage screaming? Promoters and tour managers need to stop grouping bands together by aesthetics. I'd rather see Bob Dylan touring with Suffocation, at least the two make intelligent music.

That just goes to show you of how aware people are with that shit, irritates me when I go to see a band and then there's a "core" band along with the show.

[maeve.binchy]

Generations are like waves. One passes, another takes over. Between the waves the undertow curries all that's left, and sweeps it into a singular mix of many different elements, looking like a Gryphon or Frankenstein monster but more rakish.

[ozz]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the term death-core, but to me it's an amalgam of brutal death metal and grind-core (opposed to the shitty death metal/hard-core aesthetics which FAIL) as perfected by Benighted of France.

Benighted (FRANCE) - "Benighted", "Psychose", "Insane Cephalic Production", "Identisick", and lastly "ICON"

Recueil Morbide (FRANCE)

If you're looking for a mix of the aforementioned death/hard-core aesthetics, the only band I can remotely stomach is BURST (Swe), they're quite good IMO.

[Relapse]

the only 'deathcore' album I've come across that's actually what I'd consider... ::gasp:: GOOD... is Sweden's Burst.

Burst(SWE) - "Lazarus Bird" is a actually a damn good album, though to their credit they're more progressive metal with hardcore vocals, not wholly dissimilar to Neurosis. 

But yeah, death metal fucking destroys all other genres of music... with the sole exception of some essential 80s thrash.

This band doesnt fit into the Deathcore genre in any way, shape or form, and Origo is an even better album than Lazarus Bird.

[Fwank]

I think this movement should just be ignored. As it has already happened in the 80s.... it was called hair metal. And we all know who won that battle.

The parrallels are laughable.

[LeftHandHessian]

I think this movement should just be ignored. As it has already happened in the 80s.... it was called hair metal. And we all know who won that battle.

The parrallels are laughable.

This.

It's just a trend, it will die out soon enough...

[wEEman33]

The pattern so far seems to be that, for each decade of metal's existence, there also exists a trendier form of metal that appeals to mainstream music fans:

'80s - hair metal
'90s - nu metal
'00s - hardcore metal

Give it a few more years and something else will likely come along to take its place.