Luke LaVellian
of NON SERVIAM
1. what for you makes a metal band great?
Luke LaVellian: "The Vibe". It's something that almost defies
description. It cannot be faked and can only be birthed by pure
Aryan creativity. For example, Darkthrone "has it" while nigger-
fronted Sepultura does not. Secondarily, the lyrics are quite
important to me. Racial and occult themes are musts.
2. do you think death/black metal music are closer to the music of
antiquity than the more rock-based musics like heavy metal or speed
metal or punk?
LL: Absolutely. Varg Vikernes once said that his music didn't derive
from negro "rock and roll" but was a new form to express the ancient
Aryan spirit. I fully agree. Ted Nugent is retreaded afro-noise.
Hellhammer/Celtic Frost owes nothing to the works of American
negroes.
3. is it pride or racism to write songs about one's own culture and
no others, or are racism and pride in culture inseparable in your
view?
LL: They are the same to me. Where pride for one's race is present,
hatred for what/who threatens it is never far behind. So-called
"racism" is as natural as it gets. How much pride would one honestly
have for his immediate family for instance, if it wouldn't really
matter too much if someone killed them? It is double-speak to
prattle on about love for one's culture not including a hatred for
what incessantly attacks and imperils it. It absolutely sickens me
when some in the "metal" community write "Bono/Sting" type material
decrying their ancestors treatment of stone-age Asians (injuns),
niggers etc. The inclusion of even one such "ode to whiggerism"
ruins the whole disc for me.
4. do you have any spiritual/religious beliefs?
LL: It would be most accurate to describe me as an agnostic with
strong Odinist leanings.
5. what is your opinion of pro-white activists who follow what many
consider to be a jewish religion, christianity?
LL: Any religion that rejects the jews and condemns race-mixing can
be tolerated by the resistance. While not sharing the views of the
Christian Identity folks, I respect them for their opposition to
Zionist mono-culture and their extreme hate towards jewsish people
and the state of Israel. Almost all the CI folks I've spoken to have
been fully accepting of me, so I return the favor.
6. do your friends and neighbors and coworkers know of your
political views?
LL: Close associates are fully aware of where I'm coming from, but I
need to work behind enemy lines so I play it close to the vest with
most people.
7. do you view politics as separate from culture and philosophy and
art, or are these necessarily conjoined systems of thought?
LL: Culture and philosophy are political as far as I am concerned.
It is all intertwined. Zionists are being political when they sells
us laundrey detergent, when they surround Britney Spears with nigger
and spic dancers who paw at her, or when their talking head butt-
goys read us the scripted news every night. The pop psychologist
"Dr.Phil" types are political. "Dr. Laura" is political. All promote
the gutter philosophy of judaism/freemasonry. ALL accepted art,
philosophy, music, movies, etc. are Zionist or at least "stamped
kosher" by the kike komissars. Our new Aryan media we are creating
will do the same thing in the opposite direction. Instead of looking
at things through a kosher prism, we will put the historically
authentic Aryan "spin" on it. For instance, my vision for NON
SERVIAM includes it being a print publication, NS Black metal band,
as well as it having a strong internet presence.
8. how did you come to have the beliefs that you do?
LL: I disliked being forced to have dealings with non-Aryans
basically from day one. When I was four I got in trouble in
preschool for telling a nigger kid to "get clean". I assumed his
skin was the color it was because he didn't bathe! I always hated
blackness and quickly learned to didlike hispanics to. Unlike the
propaganda that states that "racism is taught", I truly was born
predisposed to liking my own kind and rejecting those of non-kindred
peoples. As a teen, I began seriously thinking about the issues
affecting our race, and became a voracious reader. It wasn't so much
that I was "learning" new things as much as it felt that I was
"remembering" them. Racism is a spiritual thing that I feel is
shared by all pure and sensitive Aryans.
9. your essays are funny, insightful and obviously designed to
provoke. what is/are your goal(s) in writing these?
Thank you very much. From the beginning my thinking was to write the
kind of stuff I would enjoy reading. I wanted to say to other highy-
aware and pissed off Aryans that "Hey, you're not alone." I also
must admit that I enjoy how upset that kikes and mud-cruds become
when exposed to my honest thoughts concerning them. Another
important thing is that I hate seeing my people conned into
following no-win strategies put forward by bogus movement
personalities that are only out for a buck. Poseurs who are
preaching the same old CONservative dreck that has failed our people
for the last half-century, are often targets of my written wrath.
They deserve to be.
10. someone recently criticized the NSBM ("National Socialist Black
Metal") scene for being all talk and no action. how do you see the
situation?
LL: I think this is borne of ignorance of the two-tiered nature of
the resistance. The aboveground activist is there to inform/motivate
the underground. The NSBM bands are "doing something" by drawing
others into the kind of thinking necessary for steeling oneself for
what is coming. The aboveground groups and activists cannot be
involved in illegality.
11. the USA is about to go to war with iraq. do you see it "it's the
oil, stupid", "it's the religion, stupid" or another attribution for
this war?
LL: It is primarily about remaking the middle-east into a region far
safer for the bastard state of what I like to call "Isn'tReal". The
jews are masters at creating coalitions of corrupt gentiles to front
for them. For a small group of racial traitors, oil certainly is an
issue. But for every oil tycoon there are a million judeo-christian
lap-curs who worship their executioners, the trollish hebrew breed.
12. are you in favor of democracy, or against it?
LL:Completely against. It is a corrupt, duplicitous construct by its
very nature. Only a kike could praise such a system. There is no
need for "party politics" in an Aryan society predicated on the good
of the race.
13. do you play any instruments?
LL: No, unless my voice counts.
14. what are your opinions on the activities in which most americans
indulge, including but not limited to fast food, video games,
movies, television and group sex?
LL: If Amercians spent 1/10th the time reading substantive materials
as they do filling their various orifices and ingesting zionist
cultural pabulam, the world would be remade in short order. Most
Americans make me sick. Maybe that isn't "nice", but it is how I
feel.
15. are there any forms of literature which interest you?
LL: Yes. Nordic Mythology, occult books, horror, german philosophy,
books on sucessful war leaders/revolutionaries.
16. what do you think metal could do to make itself relevant to the
coming age?
LL: Black/Death Metal must remain pure. I feel it is a form that can
never be sucesfully "co-opted" by the enemy, so I am quite hopeful
for its future. It should stay truly "evil" and adversarial towards
the status quo that is quite literally murdering the Northern Aryan
peoples of the earth. The rage must never abate until there is
nothing left of our enemies for us to smash and defile.
17. what is your opinion of the metal community as an agent of
change?
LL: I think it is extraordinarily powerful already and will only
grow in influence. I am already starting to see some metal zines
accepting ads for openly racist bands. Things are being thought
about and discussed that only a few years ago were forbidden to most
"decent" White youth. What is "beyond the pale" today will one day
be as accepted as the sun rising in the morning.
18. do you think ideology has a necessary place in music? in art?
LL: Absolutely. Ideology is ever-present. There is no neutrality in
art. It is either good or bad in a racial sense.
19. it seems to me history is a series of cycles finding variable
answers to issues which never change. which cycles do you see
evident in the current time? how do you think these will
resolve/change?
LL:We are most definitely in a "deconstruction" phase, at present. A
battle of Ragnarok proportions is no doubt in America's future. ZOG
has sown the seeds and harvest time is at hand. It is what comes
afterward that concerns me.
20. was the NSDAP an "ultra-modern" regime, or a traditionalist one?
LL: I'd say it was both. It combined a quite progressive economic
approach while honoring the ways of the ancient Teutonic spirit. It
both tapped into what once had been and dealt with the then current
requirements of the German people. Hitler was truly a genius.
21. what do you think of osama bin laden?
LL: I respect him and share his loathing for the ZOG. I think all
peoples have the right to fight for self-determination and living
space exclusively for their own kind.
22. how did george bush get elected, and who are his primary
supporters?
a) 5-4 supreme court decision
b) kikes and judeo-christian lunatics.
23. many american christians support israel because of a perceived
religious kinship, but many more seem to support israel so that the
"end times" can come (predicated on the successful return of jews to
the holy land and some other factors). in which ways do you
interpret this to be a culmination of the judeo-christian faiths?
LL: I think it "fits" their so-called holy books,at least by their
understanding of them. But I of course, don't accept their rubbish
about a thousand-year reign of a jewish "Jesus" in a new world order
based in Jurasalem. I think the "prophecies" (or at least their
interpetations of them) are self-serving jew dreck. Spritual flotsam
and jetsam. The whole judeolotrous faith to me is just a way to
rationalize cowardice and a complete contempt for one's own
children. A more cowardly flight from reason and duty would be hard
to imagine.
24. which philosophers do you enjoy, and where do you think history
has proven them to lack certain parts of foresight?
LL: Friedrich Nietzsche- not nearly hard enough on the jews and
lacked insight into the judeo-masonic agenda to mongrelize/murder
the Aryan race.
Ragnar Redbeard: He really was pretty much right on. I'd be hard
pressed to come up with anything he missed.
25. do you believe in the soul?
LL: As an agnostic with strong Odinist leanings, I am open to the
idea of a "soul".
26. please add here anything else i've failed to ask, or which would
be interesting.
LL: Well, I've enjoyed the interview. I thank you for the chance to
share some of my views with your readers. If any of them would like
to subscribe to my "NON SERVIAM" internet newletter, they may send a
blank email to : lukelavellian@occultmail.com write "subscribe" in
the subject line.
LUKE LAVELLIAN
http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/g_bruer.html
MkM
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1. First off, what is your name and what part do you play in the
band (instrument or vocals, etc.)?
vokalist, disease holder of AntaeuS. Satanik stigmata & preacher of
the Void. 27 years old up to this day, non dead to most humans.
Frontman & main voice for AntaeuS, I do speak for Him.
2. Now to the real questions. Black Metal's legendary "first wave"
included so many legendary bands like Mayhem, Darkthrone, and
Immortal. Many conclude that the evolution of BM ceased after this
period, so what do you think Antaeus' relation is to the progression
of the art? Is it justifiable to be merely more extreme? Can
anything be added to the music at this point that has not been done
already?
Black Metal does mix both ideology & musick, on this level, I would
have to point out that most of nowadays bands have no linkz with the
real meaning of this Art.
Immortal never really took part of the bm kult, though their sound
is very similar, their concept would be more based on northern
landscapes, while bands like dark throne & mayhem had a more
nihilitic death feels to the lyrikz & the aura was a bit more
depressive in most cases.
We are payin hommage to those bands of the second wave, for their
dedication in the early days & the message they did spread. We do
evolve in the same vein, we hold the same message & our speech is
based on hatred, denial of life & anything that would be related to
"holyness" any religions wise, anything "human" related would be a
target.
Black metal = SataN in its most strikt vision, we here speak of
death, total death & the praise of the vortex that would swallow
all. Though the utopia of such an ending is known of us, we do work
in this way, spreading our disease & disgust of life and the concept
related to it.
Sound wise, we are more extreme than the suscited bands, we couldn't
perform the same of art, for multiple reasons : we do breed violence
more than depression (as individuals) & we do perform what we are &
breath. The band is composed of 5 individuals more or less evolving
on the Hate path. Me & Set being at the forefront of this, & since
we are the main composer (him for the music & I being the sole
responsible for any lyrikz & propaganda), we are the trademark of
AntaeuS.
Also our approach is more destruktive than the "90s" gloomy approach
of darkness, while they were opening gates of despair, we are
opening gates of torment & pain.
Both are as effective, I truely find my inspiration in both, but
violence is our key, our vektor.
Feel his pulse through us.
We are one stone of the edifice.
Black Metal is like a kathedral of Hate, it is not a question of
evolution, the "evil"ution within takes place within the rankz of
devotee evolving & praising the kult.
3. You have expressed dissatisfaction with the Cut Your Flesh and
Worship Satan album as being too rushed in the studio. To me, I can
say I do not think it harms the record and adds to the urgency of
the album. However, you have a new album coming out and will this be
different and in what way a "representation" of the band that we
have not already seen?
Somehow you are right, now that the album is older to my ears (two
years or so) I get to listen to it in different perspectives, not
rekalling all the shitty detailz about its conception & its
spreading.
CYFAWS was a gathering of mostly old trackz, like demos & reh
tracks, all gathered on the same full lenght. Only one track never
appeared anywhere before the cd release (though I am not even too
sure about that now, I should check the live tape on chanteloup
creations...) also the cd had three different rekording on it, which
was a bit messy & made it sound more like a recollection than
anything else.
Now, I think that baphomet did allow the band to put all together
the most efficient earlier track of the band (inner war, devotee,
nihil khaos...) but a rerecording of the whole album would have been
best, now that would be the main complain about this lp.
Also this album did cost us a lot of money, but I do not fool
myself, it is the same way for many bands around here, still having
labels to cash on your work without being fair to the band is
something I will never tolerate. That made me freak out, the band
never got a fuckin cent out of the sale of the band, considering it
did reach around 3000 copies (which is amazing to us, we never
expected this much) one could easily guess that we got massively
fucked on this one.
DE PRINCIPII EVANGELIKUM the newest release presents a more compact
release, being composed on a two years basis, the whole has a more
"united" strukture & lyrikz wise, that did allow me to have
something fully solid. This time the lyrikz are included, I had the
time to type all in time so people will finally get to understand
what lies behind antaeus, though it will remain obscure to most or
simply fucked up.
DPE is less easy to get into, it took me a few month to get into
some trackz myself, having one hell of a hard time to lay vokalz on
those & get the whole strukture in the reh' room
The band does reh' around 6/7 hours per week in the reh' room & more
when we get nearer to live exp or studio rekording. We get ridd off
a lot of material, our work is very serious & we are making sure to
have the most efficient offering to the black metal kult.
I think that one thing that would lack on DPE would be the intro
sektion that are truely important to me, this time the drummer & I
did lack time to meet & do something of my taste, that is my main
"negative critic" to the new album. Next release shall see a return
to those sonic landscapes & all the frustration that did hide behind
those.
4. Many BM bands are one-person projects (Burzum, Bathory, Taake,
Krieg, Ildjarn, eventually Emperor, and at times Darkthrone). What
is the band construct of Antaeus? How does the song-writing process
work and who does most of the "legwork" for the band, ie: setting up
gigs and record-related business. Any comments on past members or
development of the band over time?
You would mention there strongminded individuals that had one hard
time finding the right members to perform their art with, or simply
couldn't deal with others, due to ego conflikts.
I was just a session member in the early days, being too busy with
my zine & my distribution (& my former band)
When AntaeuS turned into a virus in me, I felt like it had to evolve
further than the limitations that the main man back then had for it.
I think that all took shape when I got hold of all the strukture of
AntaeuS, getting set as main guitarist was the best move ever, since
we have known each other for years & we had the same musikal taste
(for the early 90s sound, nowadays we tend to listen to different
aktz yet our basis are the same).
Drum wise, we decided to get ridd off the drum machine & never
changed since.
Bass & rythm guitar wise, we might have had more than 20 different
members within the band, but in 98 we did finally find the right
one, being also involved in Eternal Majesty with whom we did a split
demo back then. I did know them since they were working a lot with
SPIKEKULT (since their first demo, "dark empire").
Since then, the line up is perfekt & all of us are united & work on
the musikal struktures.
For all the rest, interviewz, ideals, propaganda, kontaktz, ALL is
done by me & me only. Mostly due to the fact that I am the only one
speakin & writtin in english.
That does take a lot of my time, due to this I did stop all others
implications (my zine, other bands & even spikekult for some
months/years).
We do not seek gigs really, since conditions are always fuckin
ridiculous or awful, I try to avoid to the max getting to play live,
though we had two or three great shows since 94; mostly over the two
past years.
Getting gas money & some beers seems to be the VERY best we could
get in europe, even if we perform in front of 300 people... the cost
to rent a place is so high that none could ever pay the band.
5. A couple reviews I've read of CYFaWS, while positive, have
accused the band of not bringing anything new to the table.
Stylistically, I would say that Antaeus is a) faster (I'd say only
Krieg is as fast), b) more "grind", c) less atmospheric, d) more
brutal and divided into penetrating structures of noise than in an
"epic" sense of many bands. Agree? What is the aesthetic you are
going for here, other than just "fast." Because it is definitely a
unique and not just a retro sound.
I do agree with those reviewz, still we never did claim to bring
anything to new, so I sometimes wonder why we are accused of that,
just like we were lyin about it.
True, we are faster, though I would use "more brutal" instead, since
speed for itself doesn't mean much to us, tons of swedish bands are
playin hyper fast, but both the drumz & riffs are without any
effects on the listener.
Brutality & Hate are the main faktors in AntaeuS sound, we do hold
this pulse & seek to create such aura within any rekording of ours.
Our epic approach might be linked to the tension we do put in the
rekordin process.
The grind aspect cannot be denied as well, musik wise, some bands
are truely unique to me, but the message, most of the time, would be
simply ridiculous or be the opposite of my ideas.
Older grind bands had more of a dark or sick approach compared to
today's fun/gore/political bands.
6. Hate is a large concept of the band. Does this reach over into
politics at all? Many BM are clearly fascist, a politics based on
hate, while others are nihilistic (and in that sense, partially
anarchistic). Views of politics in yourself and in the scene?
Hate is anywhere, but most politics would serve some instead of
others, while we support the death of ALL; all those fascist bands
are always a source of interrogation in my kamp. All those linked to
black metal & openly using both the sigils of SataNism & those of
Nazism are creating a nonsense to me.
the nihilistic part is often dealing with one hope for a brighter
future, built on the ashes of nowadays society & values.
I do not have any hope of this kind, the only hope I have is
tattooed on my chest.
Let's go back on the nonsense, I don't care about NS bands as long
as they are not linked with black metal. Politics would limit the
initial meaning of black metal.
NSBM seems more serious to the young than the "inverted cross",
since it would represent something more "socially involved", having
to deal with values that would be more "linked" to todays world &
having more impact due to the importance of sigils (ie : the use of
swastika or SS sigils are full of meaning & related to happening
that took place less than a century ago). Politics are giving black
metal a more "humanistic" approach, which I don't really understand.
I would understand sadistik exekution using SS symbols or funeral
mist for their vision of death in general, but as far as "human
values" are involved, I simply don't get it.
Any individuals mixin bm with ns should realize that there is
already a scene for that, anything metal related is more or less
viewed as "outcast" due to the code of life (destruktive, alcohol,
aggression)...
anyway when I think of those teens doing "sieg heil" here & there
with their beers & long hair, they would be among the first to enter
the gas kamp that does make me laugh
Death is the main goal anyway.
7. In what sense is Antaeus a "do it yourself" band that controls
the aspects of recording, promotion, management, and production
itself? You are clearly dedicated to the underground, but many
people are not familiar with the metal underground as much as the
more-established and cohesive American punk underground. How does
the underground work and how much is Antaeus a separate entity from
outside control and influence of labels, promoters, etc?
A would be my band then, since I would be responsible for most of
those aspects.
Being honest, I am not too aware of the punk scene, though got to
meet up with some labels from around here pressing punk vinylz &
their scene seemed much more "supportive" & less "inner war" in
between labels & so on. I might have a wrong of it though.
I would be totally dedicated to one aspect of the ug scene, which I
could describe as the only real scene, with true sick freakz & not
wannabes & morons of any kind that would pollute the bm kult.
those idiots are numerous & for the past years, I would have spent
way too much time on those inbreed fags instead on workin on my code
of life & supporting what had to be supported with the scene (bands
& labels wise). Now we are viewed as traitors to most, since we did
sign to Osmose.
Osmose allows us a studio rekording budget & having the whole
distribution in their hand, I could never deal with that myself, my
daily job takes around 50 hours per week now (compared to 70 h per
week for last year) which makes it nearly impossible to cope with
the mail & any correspondance in general. Even reh' with the band
got closed to impossible for me. All is getting better now, but as
far as I am concerned, if A didn't sign to Osmose, all would have
stopped. I couldn't go on paying 300 usd per month for the band, not
having enough to cope for my own living cost.
Now we do loose less cash, but we still loose. So when I get to read
that we did become fucking rockstars or sell out, I might ask to
whom did we sell out???
A band selling 5000 copies (which even ain't our case) could never
live out of it, I am sure that you are aware of that, but many
readers out there that did write us do think that we do earn enough
money with the band to live with....
It was ok to reply to those questions the first years, but after a
while, it killed me that most people wouldn't get how it workz...
But hell, we are talking about fuckin labels detailz & how bands are
getting fucked most of the time
Right now with Osmose, all is doing ok, we just did spend around 400
usd for this one, (lay out & mastering) since we did excess a bit
the budget allowed for the studio rekording.
8. How is the French "scene?" Are there many bands, zines, or venues
to play in? Are there a lot of posers?
Scene in france is not my fave subjekt, I did support many bands
from around here in the past, being proud of my "local scene", but
all those bands did fuckin backstabb us for no reasons or so.
"allies of today are the backstabbers of tomorrow", thus I don't
mention too much about bands from around here.
There is a fair deal of akts though, most of them are amateurish to
the core & spending more time in front of camera or doing shirtz
than working on the musikal parts.
All of them are envious little morons who are offended when they
realize it is not that "easy" to have a cd out. They all think that
demos are useless & that the underground is just a chat room on the
net.
For the older ones, we had either conflikts with them or totally
different views.
Apart from a few dozen individual in the whole france, we don't get
along too much with individuals from around here.
I had my fair deal of war around here.
In the newer band ; dark opus & aosoth are among my faves
DEATHSPELL OMEGA must be the ultimate black metal band the
traditionnal way. END ALL LIFE is without any doubt the best vinyl
bm label, they must have by now the CYFAWS on lp out, & that is one
Honour for us to be on that label.
Zines? well 666 is the best in the extreme bm/dm way, eternal fire
was killer too but defunct (or simply no newz from them since long),
stregoica was kult in its dayz, now they are doing ordealis rekords
which is very promising (killer work from their part),
deadfuckinchurch is a good zine but he said that his final issue
will be the next...
Some distro are great too, like paleur mortelle & warchangel.
AntaeuS will have a split 10" with AOSOTH on Paleur Mortelle
(akhaeus@aol.com) in the comin month btw.
Gigs wise, the audience is way better than any us gigs that I got to
visit (& I had my fair deal of us deals over the three or four stayz
I did over there), we usually get from 150 to 400 nowadays, but
places are not so numerous & each venues does cost around 2000 to
3000 usd to rent for a night, with such prices, no bands would get
any payment, asking for gas payment is already a dream for bands.
Due to that, in 2001, antaeus only performed live Once.
We did perform a bit more over the past months, with bands like
nargaroth, taake, enthroned, eternal majesty...
The last hellish gig we did do was in Paris with taake & enthroned,
our best set ever since 2001;
In nov 002 we will be among the opening bands for the DEICIDE
european tour, we shall desecrate new countries & I do expekt that
tour I must say.
9. Most BM has diverged into "symphonic," commercial crap. I'm sure
you have some ventings on bands like this (Dimmu Borgir, Anorexia
Nervosa, Ancient), or on "retro" bands like Dark Funeral. To many,
Black Metal must remain underground and elite, and yet within it are
elements that are more palatable to the masses- a band like Immortal
proving that BM can be commodified over time. Thoughts on this
phenomenon in Black Metal?
Like anywhere, when you get an artistic style that would be
perceived as elitist & underground, one will have the wish to
"extand" it on a different level, for various reasons.
Some considers that the message should not be limited to one handful
of individuals
some seems to think that they would sell more rekords having an
"evil" image Some just find it "cool" to use such imagery Others are
living the black metal kult, on a daily basis.
Music wise, I am closed minded when it comes to black metal, not
opening myself too much to new genres, though I did try to pay
attention to all those bands poppin up & crossing goth, indus & so
on with black metal.
I must admit that diabolicum & mysticum were the only one that did
match my expektations when it comes to the aura created.
On the other level, I also pay attention to the "performers", for
example : Anorexia Nervosa is often quoted as fag band, mostly due
to the COF sounding of the musick. But on a personal level, the
frontman is really a sicko & is among those few individuals I
consider. Yet he would be a bit too much "rock n roll" sometimes eh
too much drugz & autodestruction for me (which does provide a smile,
that does you an idea on how fucked the man can be) aktually I think
that when you get to meet him, he would be more in his place
belongin to sadistik exekution than anorexia (musick wise) Ancient &
dimmu borgir never made it to me, not even one track from their
early days (the ep of ancient was ok though).
You did qualify some elements of black metal as "palatable" for the
masses, yet we have to redefine masses then, since those masses
would be the "extreme metal scene" which is not that wide, only a
few thousands people I would say.
Not something that could be play on the air of any local radio show
& musical tv shows or whatever. We are not dealing with "pop" music.
But I do agree, black metal did sadly evolve to a wider audience &
that doesn't mean that the real audience did grow bigger, just that
it did expand to people that simply don't get a clue of what real
black metal is about.
Having some individuals to compare napalm death to dark throne
amazes me... the only link between those bands is mostly in the
instruments used & some beats. (& some would kill me for the "rythm"
comparaison)
Anyway, on our level, like other bands, we remain an underground
band, you will most likely always find "cyfaws" & "dpe" on cd
format, but we will go on doing limited tapes & vinylz. Only for
those few sick ones that are also the pulse of the band.
It does mean a lot to us to be supported by like minded individuals,
band members or zine editors or just listeners.
I do not get much letters in that vein, but with those few with whom
we share visions, getting to read some comments on AntaeuS work is
always rewarding.
Our satanik audio violence would be a weapon & only some individuals
know how to handle it & how to view it properly.
10. Carcass or Bolt Thrower? Pick one.
Fuck... Bolt Thrower
at least they didn't change & "cenotaph" is an instant classic for
me, such as the "in the battle there is no law" lp. carcass had
amazing trackz but fuckin wimped out too much for my taste.
11. When can we expect the new album (on Osmose, right?) and will
there ever be an American tour??
the new rekordin shall be out on sept 23rd in europe, so obviously a
bit later in the usa, osmose doesn't have a distributor over there I
think, so most releases are available mostly through ug mailorders &
so on. I doubt one will find it as easily as CYFAWS over there. I
seriously doubt on the american tour thing, though I wish we could
go over there & perform with bands like black witchery, thornspawn,
krieg, demoncy, gbk & so on. Since we are doing a european tour for
"DPE" in november, as opening band for Deicide, I am not nearly sure
that no tour will happen until the next release (the third album
that is).
Having us on a european tour would mean getting the band on a bigger
"bill", having an headlining band that could make it possible. As of
now, I have no big expectation about a us tour, since it seems
nearly impossible, we are not "selling" enough to be pushed that
way.
The Deicide tour is already something really expensive.
In the future, who knowz? but I wouldn't be surprised if the band
never gets to perform over there.
Bands like marduk, satyricon & others took forever to go to the
other continent & most of the time, itz like a money vortex more
than anything else.
Time shall tell, we still have to perform over here first, that is
our territory & we haven't visited more than three countries as of
now (which would be like performin in three different states for a
us bands).
12. To you, what is most important in sustaining black Metal into
the coming years, as it is increasingly an "endangered" form of
music?
I see it that way : Evil will never dies, it might change shape, as
long as some form of Art will be dedicated to its "grandeur", I see
no problem with it
Black Metal has somehow a more raw approach to it, a darker
incarnation meant to appeal to more extreme masses, thus a minority
of individuals are truely meant to understand fully the concept
behind this genre.
Black metal is nowadays marketed as a musical genre only, with
gimmicks to help the sales. Many bands did take the opportunity to
rise using those "eye catching" ideas related to black metal.
13. Your top 5 BM records?
DarkThrone "a blaze in the northern sky"
Funeral Mist "devilry"
Katharsis "666" + "red eye of wrath" demo
Blasphemy "fallen angel of doom"
Beherit "D. down the moon" (& oath of the black blood)
those are the ultimate
gettin near to that, I'd add sadistik exekution (all releases),
profanatica, demoncy, krieg... I'd easily give 20 names that would
represent the whole list of bands I really support.... Giving 30
names would be impossible though. not enough bands have individuals
matchin the right ideology one should have within the bm scene.
14. Thanks for the interview! Good luck on your upcoming record and
in the inevitable Satanic victory over the forces of light. Have a
nice day
Forces of Light are forces of lies as well, they are their own
failure & we shall be the witness & the temptation for them.
Take a look in the abyss & the abyss will stare back at you
For we hold the ultimate void, we shall go on, we are Omega.
ANTAEUS cyfaws.free.fr
VOICES WAKE US voiceswakeuszine@hotmail.com
Seth Putnam
of ANAL CUNT
1. is society evolving or devolving? is there a difference in your
view?
i don't really pay attention to what goes on in the world very much.
i'm not that interested. i've had times when i had some interest
here and there, but not in a long time. i think the worst thing
going on is forced multiculturalism and wiggers. if you compare t.v.
and popular things now to even as short as 20 years ago, everything
is completely different.
2. it seems that recent generations celebrate frustration, futility
and fatalism over such ancient values as "changing one's situation
in life" or "enacting change through mass death." of which
perspective would you be more inclined to speak favorably?
it depends what mood i'm in.
3. one great philosopher once suggested that outside of the fear of
death, the only real agenda on most people's minds was finding a way
around their self-confidence issues. do you think this is true, and,
if so, what did you or do you do to strengthen your self-confidence?
i don't think that's the only real agenda, i'm not sure what is
though. one think that's easy to strengthen your self confidence
that works for me is drinking alcohol. some people might think
that's lame, but it works for me.
4. your music seems to be demonstrative in that there is not focus
on finding musical devices as much as making blasting, battering,
basic songs that hammer home the sardonic nature of the title used
as chorus line. what is your attitude toward music, and what makes
one band great and another shit, in your view?
i hate music and can't live without it at the same time. it's not a
very easy answer. i basically like every kind of music, but a very
small amounts of each genre. as to whether bands are good or not,i
take bands on a band by band basis. it all depends on what mood i'm
in. also, after listening to a band, say like black sabbath, for
many many years, i'll like them, but if a new band sounds just like
them, or maybe even better, i probably won't like them because they
are too much of a ripoff, or i heard them too later on. i think some
bands get "grandfathered" in if you've listened to them forever.
i've loved negative approach for about 20 years now, but if a new
band sounded like them, i might not like them. over time also, what
was considered extreme 20 years ago is nothing compared to what's
out now. one newer band i like, that i wouldn't have liked 20 years
ago is buckcherry. everything they do is a complete ripoff of
something else, but they are ripping off bands no one else does
anymore, and they're really good,if not better at it. basically,
there is no "cut and dry" approach to what i like and dislike. a lot
of bands i originally hated end up being some of my favorite
bands(village people,culture club,morbid angel,etc). i tend to not
like too much after 1985 though.
5. of the metal to which you listen now, which bands do you think
have surpassed what possessed and sepultura did in 1985, - and/or -
is there a way to surpass the past, or has music remained unchanged
and only the perceptions of the crowd changed?
i am very unfamiliar with most metal stuff after 1985(also, i never
liked sepultura). to much boring shit started coming out around
then, and i got disinterested. there might be some great bands after
1985, but i wouldn't know. i also don't trust anyones opinion on
music. i thought some of the early morbid angel stuff (thy kingdom
come demo)was hilarious when it came out, but i ended up liking it
after hearing it enough. i'm sure there are tons of heavier bands
since 1985, but i don't care that much. the only comparison i can
give would be some older person saying everything after the beatles
is horrible. some people seem to have an end time period to what
they listen to, and maybe only a couple newer bands might escape
into being liked. i kind of lose interest after 1985, with a few
exceptions.
6. how often do you think of your own mortality, and what is a
typical meditation regarding it?
i have anxiety problems every now and then, and think about death
for no reason at all. it stems from when i used to do cocaine
constantly. i got a prescription for buspar (spelling?) and it went
away pretty much. lots of times though, i hope i'll die, like when
i'm on a plane, or when certain situations happen. i really don't
want to, but there's a subconcious part of me that always wants the
worst things to happen to me.
7. do you have a wife and family? if so, why? <-- meaning: you seem
like a more alienated guy than that
i was married for 3 years, now i'm divorced. luckily, i have no
children. me and her were HEAVILY into drugs, and we were both out
of our minds. that's why we probably got married. i don't think i'd
ever do that again.
8. what's the most overrated metal band currently getting heavy
rotation in the underground?
i have no idea what's going on in the underground. of the top of my
head, i'd say dillinger escape plan,pig destroyer/agoraphobic
nosebleed (i haven't really heard these bands, but i can't imagine
them being as great as reviews i've seen),neurosis,nile,and any band
that NEVER gets a bad review.
9. do you think the internet has "democratized" music too much,
making it so that there's a flood of bands but a dearth of
variation?
i don't know much about the internet. i mostly just use it for
email. i never look for stuff to "download". i go to a couple of
message boards now and then and keep up with the dumb things going
on.
10. what do you think of postmodernism as a philosophy and as a
basis for art or music?
i think you were wearing a beret while you typed that question.
11. one aspect of recent faddish academic theory suggests that as
various ideals from the past are worn down or "disproven," humans
will gravitate toward an "end of history" in which democratic and
liberal values have come to dominate. others claim this end of
history is an end of the decisionmaking process in humanity. what do
you think on this issue?
i'm not stupid or anything, but i hate when people talk in this way.
i know some writers try to sound "smart" and like a "good writer",
but i hate the way most of these questions are being asked. my
favorite writers are people who talk the way they would normally
talk and not try to sound like they stare at a thesaurus all day. if
you normally talk like this, you remind me of chin-scratching know-
it-alls who sit in a coffee shop and discuss boring,pompous shit.
12. certain academics have made themselves famous by suggesting that
anyone who is harshly critical of something secretly longs to be
part of it, including "homophobes" (those who hate fags) and
"racists" (those who don't think every race/individual is equal). i
would reply to these academics that the same applies to people
obsessed by extreme action who can't undertake it themselves. what
are your thoughts regarding this issue?
that whole thing about "homophobes" secretly wanting to be gay is
bullshit, and just as prejudiced a remark. i hate people and i try
to be not involved with society as much as possible. just about
everything anyone says makes me angry. the world has gotten so much
gayer in the last few years. i try my best to have no idea what's
going on in the world.
13. in the 1980s, it seemed metal (except Slayer) had a total hippie
mentality regarding its ideology. has this changed and, if so, why?
what was so "hippyish" about early sodom,bathory,mantas/death, blood
death,etc.? like i said earlier, i really have no idea about what's
going on in the "underground" for the last few years.
14. if you were the beltway sniper, who would you shoot next? why do
you think this guy is doing this stuff; are range fees that
expensive?
if i knew i could get away with it, i'd kill tons of people too. i
just don't want to lose my "freedom" by going to jail.
15. f.w. nietzsche unleashed a world of horrifying introspection for
humanity when he peeled back the visible layer of conscious
interaction and suggested that, despite our social justifications,
all human interactions boil down to a transfer of power. how do you
think our current society has adjusted to this revelation?
i don't know anything about f.w. nietzsche.
16. when you compose a song, do you "sing" (lack of better word) a
riff along to the sentence of the main theme in the lyrics, or are
these riffs pre-created and later mated to a conceptual background?
i don't have a uniformed way to create "songs".
17. what changes do you think will occur in underground music now
that it has become mainstreamed by bands like slipknot, sepultura,
slayer, etc?
who gives a shit. things about the underground have always been gay.
caring about stuff like that is useless. everything becomes overrun
by morons and gets popular eventually.
18. why is it that suddenly every joe fanboy out there has a
"webzine" with "everything in the world you need to know about
underground extreme music" until his or her fascination with the
genre is up after two years, and the website fades? how much useful
information do you think is lost in the process?
actually, i have NEVER looked at a webzine. i didn't even look at
yours. anyways, there will always be people into extreme things,
especially when they are younger. 99.99999999% grow out of it. for
example, it's a miracle if i see anyone at an "underground" show
that i'd see in the early 80's. whether you like it or not,
underground music is a fad for most people. the ones who stick with
it are the ones that i will usually talk to(if i am friends with
them). getting upset about people not "being into it" anymore is
useless, because i know most of these people will be lawyers in a
couple of years. i don't know anything about you're background, you
might be an executive in a few years and talk about the "crazy"
stuff you were into when you were younger. i think anyone who is
still wasting their time with this type of music after age 30 will
most likely be into it forever (i'm 34,born may,1968).
19. how would you implement a "peace process" in the middle east?
blow it up.
20. if al-qaeda and china invaded tomorrow, what would you do?
you'd have to be more specific.
21. what do you think of shemales (ex: ladyboylovers.com) and how
they're changing the traditional dimensions of "gayness"? will this
affect your lyrics?
i've never seen that website. i really don't care about things. i
don't sit around all day and care,or think about things. i'm sure i
don't like them, i don't like much of anything to begin with.
22. are you a hedonist?
i forgot the definition of that.
23. is anal cunt ever going to do a "just to prove we can" straight-
up death/grind album?
if we wanted to prove we can be just as boring and unoriginal as
everyone else, maybe.
24. which american president had the longest penis?
your boyfriend.
25. do you believe in astrology? if so, is the world deterministic
(all conclusions are predetermined by initial input data)?
no.
26. what supermodels would you most like to impregnate so you can
beat them to an abortive state?
i don't really know about many supermodels. maybe claudia schiffer.
27. is martha stewart still hot, after sixty years and what looks
like an upcoming conviction?
i don't know shit about her either. i seriously barely know or care
what's going on in the world.
28. what's your opinion of relapse records? is it true they won't
sign a band unless its members have at least one maternal jewish
ancestor?
i haven't really heard much that they've put out. everything i can
think of sucks, except the repulsion "horrified" cd. they are a
great label to get ripped off by, and get fucked around by. most
people i know on that label hate relapse. they put out an a.c.
release, and there's not any jew in my or tim's background (me and
him are the ones who played on the relapse release). well, i'm just
assuming that about tim, i hate him though.
Seth Putnam
www.sethputnam.com
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