Heidenlarm/a metal and neoclassical music zine
May 23, 2003
Issue #5

 Introduction
 Features
 Interviews
 Music
 Editorial
 Radar

Introduction

As metal chokes to death on its own weight of consumption, the staff
of Heidenlärm continue the task of offering viewpoints outside the
norm to infuriate those who are not autonomous and delight the brave
souls who realize adventure and conflict are more important than
stability for nourishment of the soul.

Editorial

The Mob Morality

The metal community, as a whole, knows it wishes to pull away from
what society is and find something more vital as a reason to live.
After all, society seems motivated only by money, power and public
image, and these things lead to repetitive and constricted spaces of
action. But has the metal community found an alternative?

One thing that lies in common with all three social motivations is
the necessary connection to morality of each in our current time.
Money requires some moral sense of right and wrong so that society
can assert an absolute right to ownership, including that which
compels us all to spend ten or twelve hours a day at a job. Power
requires either a "divine right" or a socially-acceptable reason for
its existence; the only reason you can get almost everyone to agree
on is a moral one, "we're doing this in your best interests" or
"this preserves the rights of the individual."

In order to justify your power, you have to make every person
counted and to make the preservation of the individual paramount;
through this, you guarantee every person that the needs of the whole
will not take away their lives or livelihood. This is why
egalitarian, or "everyone counts the same," politics have always
been a crowd-pleaser: it removes the fear of being contradicted by
the needs of the whole. This ties in to public image, which is why
money-grubbing politicians do non-profitable things... to look good,
so they can gain power and do more profitable things.

Although metalheads witness this daily, they have failed to
introduce a competing and superior system in their own culture, the
much-vaunted "underground." More specifically, most metalheads still
use moral principles to explain their actions, with this
justification process itself being the origin of morality. To make
the situation worse, since most are ill-prepared to understand any
of these issues, bringing up anti-moralism as a value most commonly
elicits a "but you're being moral about it!" accusation. It's time
that metal get educated and stop wallowing in its own misery.

What is moralism? Moralism is the belief in morality, meaning any
grading or categorization of action into acceptable/not in an
absolutist sense. The simplest example is murder; our leaders claim
murder should be illegal, but then have wars, requiring them to play
complex justification games to explain how war isn't murder. This is
word play: killing people is killing people. A postmoralist
recognizes that killing is often necessary, and that because there
is no sanctity to the individual (humans are in essence smarter
apes, but this does not make each unit holy and untouchable), there
is no need to moralize killing. Murdering retarded children, stupid
people, liars, criminals, and priests reduces the amount of
dysfunctional people in our society and, by removing them from the
gene pool, decreases the possibility of them breeding and spreading
these traits to others.

In metal music, there are many forms of moralism:

- Don't criticize this band. It's a buddy of mine, and he has an
equal right as anyone else to put out a band (even if it sucks).

- Stop being racist. Everyone is equal, and racism is mean (even if
necessary to preserve your own culture/ethnicity).

- You're not open-minded. If you really cared about the music, you'd
listen to this band because they use a flute and everyone's opinion
is important.

- If you don't like it here, why don't you leave? Everyone already
knows their own opinion and they don't agree, so stop trying to
change things (even if it's necessary).

- Music is just entertainment. It's pretentious to insist that some
bands have an artistic agenda, because that makes my bedroom
grind/black/death metal band seem like it's not equal.

- Why do you make everything political? Just live and let live.
We're all in this together.

- Don't be mean to the stupid, weak or retarded. They have a right
to exist too (even if it means those who are not stupid, weak or
retarded are proportionately less able to act).

These are just a few of many examples. It's useful to be able to
recognize these and laugh at the people who are so proud to be
"apart from" society yet can't separate from its rules and
justifications. These are people whose own lack of self-confidence
makes them dangerous, because they will barge into any situation out
of a necessity for identity, and then tear it down by making it into
the same form of morass that is our society as a whole. Even more
than laughing at these people, any redblooded metalhead should act
against them, even if just speaking up to point out their hypocrisy.

Interviews

Noktu
of CELESTIA

 1. you speak about being at war with mediocrity; how did mediocrity 
 become introduced to black metal, which was once elitist?

Yes, Black Metal used to be an elistism movement at it very
beginning. It's why that movement attracted me naturally. It was
something very chaotic when everything started, it was a pleasant
creative time. Now, all seems to have turned to a kind of standard
where censors is present and where we have to be careful with what
we say. I think that Black Metal entered in our actual society. I
mean, it has taken the worst influence our actual decadent world can
offer. Black Metal has been changed into a vulgar kind of music,
reducing it like any metal style. Then, the mediocrity appeared. I
will not mention names, they are too many. I think that i have lost
my war against that. Yes, I admit that. We are alone in front of all
these armies of inoffensive peoples who like to backstabb each
others. They have won, that's true. It has lead us to be apart from
any scene. Unfortunately for them, we won coz we are different.
To finish with that. How can Black Metal can be considered as
something serious today ? from a dark cult, it has become a standart
music than every single teenager can listen. All the press is
corrupted also. All these bands are sterilized. It is really easy to
get lost in that labyrinth of unsignifiance.
 
 2. can any society exist without evolutionary pressure? what about
 musical genres, in the same context? how does this apply to metal
 in the current time?

There's 3 states, creation - evolution and Destruction. I think that
in both our society and in the Black metal, we are reaching the
third state. Sorry, for my lucidity. no no, I am not pessimist, on
the contrary, I appreciate to see that society taking the way of
non-return destruction. I even smile when i hear that some iraquian
peoples have been killed by a bomb last week. Does it make me a
monster ? I think that i reached a point where human life do not
have any valor for me. Even mine, if someone will have the balls to
kill me, i will not be angry against him, I promess. Unfortunatelly
it seems that it will not happen.
My opinion about the metal scene is really low. I try to only deal
with a limited circle of persons in fact, i am not looking for
negative relationships with immature peoples, since i am in that
scene, i don't remember exactly since how many years. I faced all
kind of situations like being betrayed and all other kind of
displeasants situations. Well, it leaded me to be what I am today. I
am just me. Nothing more in fact. Maybe, my presence will disgust
some creatures and i am pleased of that. Well, for finish, i really
think that metal is a music for brainless monkeys who like to move
their heads when they like something. You know, these long haired
peoples who collect vinyls and that appreciate Bathory and
Darkthrone. These peoples are so unsignifiant to my eyes. They like
something because it's a recognized standart. Most of the time, they
haven't liked it when it was created. These peoples are boring
talking about their musical tastes... They have also contributed to
the destruction of Black metal. I think that the creation of the
Black metal also contributed to it own destruction. That is an
evident point anyway. So, why having created that kind of music then
? I think that the peoples that created that kind haven't asked
themselves this kind of questions, in the past, things were done by
feelings and not because of the trend. Well, their future will not
lead them to something memorable, that is for sure... Anyway, their
scene is Dead forever, there's no possible way to recreate the
past... There's no need to spread tears on these ashes, i'm affraid
that it will never ressurect anything.
 
 3. which is a greater motivator, fear or pleasure, in your view?
 does this vary from human to human? could this measurement be used
 to subdivide the human species?

I will be tempted to answer both. Since I like when feelings are
mixed. I mean, pleasure is tasteful when it's mixed with fear. I
think that it will vary from human to human yes. There's some
peoples who like to drink wine and other chimical drinks like coca
cola. And if we enter into details, i think that the human tastes
will define the level of refinement of the person. Humans are all
differents and unequal.
 
 4. fascism is a combination of elitism, meritocracy, and tribal
 socialism. this is inherently against the one-world/one-government
 view proposed by the united states and its allies. what do you see
 the future holding for humanity, in the continuing clash of these
 views? is this the same clash that occurred in 1939-1945,
 continuing, or a new idea?

My vision about the future are very negatives, i don't believe that
any politcal system will resolve the world problems, i think that
only a total destruction of the planet will re-etablish a certain
order. This capitalist world tend to forget about the real human
values, i am far to be humanist, but they don't even respect each
others, what's count the most if profit before everything. that is
ruining our world. I don't think that the actual conflict is the
following of the 39/45 war, since the nazi empire was totally
annihilated. We are facing another problem. A religion is trying to
eat others. Catholic church always considered islamists as a weak
religion, on the other hand islamists cultivates a viceral hates
against non-muslims. Jews are dislikes every unpure religions ? Do
you think that all of this will lead us to eternal peace. No, i
don't think so. Since arabs are armed now, we are going to a more
dramatic events era.
 
 5. the music of celestia uses melodies played on a single guitar
 string at a time where many bands would tremolo (fast-picking
 strum) chords; what suggested this direction to you?

I believe that Celestia sound is unique. on most of our songs we use
inverted chords that caracterize our sound. We never use single
strings melodies apart from the few guitars leads and solos. It is
true that the guitar sound on our album is really ethereal, maybe,
it give that effect of something simple. We don't like technical
music in fact, we prefer to bring a certain atmostphere than a
demonstration of musical skills. Our way of composing is natural.
 
 6. often, it seems as if your music seeks to set up a view of
 reality in order to leave it behind and go into the ambiguous. do
 you find there is a path in obscurity, or is it the lack of path
 that suggests something about our reality, which is designed around
 paths and those paths being "absolutely right."

Our musical is natural to me, i am able to feel it and to enter
inside. everyone will have his own difinition about our music. I
think that Celestia is the reflect of our personallities mixed with
our darkest feelings.
 
 7. do you have any mystical beliefs?

Yes, I think so. Difficult to express exatly what in details. But I
believe in the presence of energies around us. Still, i am not able
to define them. But I like to communicate with these forces. I don't
follow any already existing sectarian movements. I try to be my own
master, seeking for his own equilibrium.
 
 8. in philosophy, we describe the difference between paganism
 (editor's note: and hinduism, and occultic national socialism) as
 being the difference between absolute idealism and cosmic idealism.
 absolute idealism is like christianity, where people know a
 difference between "good" and "evil" and there is no compromise; in
 cosmic idealism, there is no right or wrong or any absolute
 knowledge, and the universe is viewed as a natural system which
 uses its own methods (including predation, killing, horror, etc) to
 keep itself from falling into repetition. which of these views do
 you think is closer to the ideals of black metal?

I will tend to think that the cosmic idealism is something closer to
Black Metal. At least for me. Black Metal is something more than
music for me, it is a part of myself, a way of feeling life. But my
conception of Black metal is becoming too much personal with the
ages to even be called " a Black metal way of life". I am not
limited to that kind of music, I enjoy also to listen classical
music very much, also religious music like requiems. I think that
i've reach a point where it is not possible anymore to define my
conception of things. Let's see that it will be easier to call it
the Noktu's philosophy. But it will sound a bit pretentious.

 9. for a "free" society, there is a lot of fear in the modern
 "western" world, and people like to have "100%" answers like "this
 is good; this is bad" - do you think fear is a greater motivator
 than pleasure, or has this been a conditioned response?

This "free" society is a theatre of illusion. Everything is fake and
tasteless. Peoples eat their own excrements and they seems to
appreciate that because tv shows them that eating that is good. They
believe their god, the media. I have nothing against the
communication media, until the time they are showing a credible
image of that decadent world. I think that they fear to be
different, so they all eat is these concentration camp restaurants.
like burger kind of other kind of shit. Forgive my vulgarity please,
but there's no other words coming to my mind when i evoke these
abominations. Humans are just numbers, born to eat, shit and think
like each others; the only who is different is condemned to leave a
parallel existence where he will be excluded from every mass
feelings. It lead me to think that being different is maybe the
better thing to do. But difference is not wish, we are different
because we are really different, they are not different because they
all wear an old Darkthrone shirt with a nice plastic inverted
christian cross or an inverted luciferian pentagram. We are living
in a world of clones. Something nightmarish and unrealist.
Sometimes, it is painful to just open his eyes and to see all these
insects living all around.
 
 10. over the 1,000 years christ has ruled europe and america, do
 you think that by the killing of those who did not agree and the
 wealth of those who did, it has programmed our societies to breed
 only christian-type-of-thinking people?

Sure, inquisition time showed us the negative side of the
christianism. I think that bible is an interesting books, i believe
that at it basis, it was not something really stupid, but all these
translations all over the ages have metamorphosed the real goals of
that holy book. I think that the same thing happened also for the
coran. These books were political books, on the ancient time,
peoples minds were more primitives and they used to trust more
easily about mystic things, so they invented that myth of jewsus
christ to lead peoples to believe in something pure. Well, that is
not something bad at all. Coz, i think that religion gives a certain
discipline to primitive masses. Look these african countries, they
haven't evolved, mostly coz of their intelligence level but also due
to a lack of discipline. Christianism leaded peoples to become
lambs, islamisms leaded them to become fanatiscm. That paradox will
not lead us to a world where everyone is happy. Difference do not
lead us to equilibrium. Mixed races always lead to a bastard thing.
That society wish to tell us that everything is fine, but it is easy
to see that everything is wrong. Even the air we are breathing on is
polluted, so, something is wrong there. that is for sure.
 
 11. what first inspired you about the sound of metal music and made 
 you want to experience it?

I was first attracted by that sound coz it was a music that
everybody seemed to hate, i started to listen heavy metal a long
time ago when i was a little student. I didn't liked the others and
i have find a certain pleasure by listening extreme music, i evolved
by listening more and more extreme things and i discovered the
norwegian black metal in 1992 after having been very involved in the
Death metal scene. I liked to communicate with peoples at these
times, it was like a family with a certain occult side. Today, i am
totally out of that, peoples on metal are xeroxed. they are all the
same. I do not feel any interest to put my contribution to the
devellopement of that scene. Celestia is aside of that since 1995.
(the death of the black metal movement in my opinion).
 
 12. what do you think is the appeal of metal, that makes "real"
 metal distinct from all other genres even to an unschooled
 listener?

For me they are all the same. A more mature metal listener was a
trendy, a trendy will evenually become someone who collect lps to
pretend to be true. But in fact, they all started listened
commercial cds in big music markets. Metal peoples don't have any
meanings to my eyes, except few exceptions.
 
 13. are there "right ways" and "wrong ways" of creating each genre
 of metal?

Yes, sure. There's always right and wrong in everything even in the
way of creating music, it seems that wrong has won on the right on
that metal genre.
 
 14. nietzsche and schopenhauer both claim that egalitarianism, or
 the belief that all people are equal, is the root of both judean
 religions (judaism, christianity) and modern liberalism. the united
 states justifies its wars by claiming to bring "freedom",
 "democracy","free speech" and economic progress to other nations.
 would you say this is an essentially liberal or conservative
 approach?

Everyone knows that the words that use the united states to justify
their war are totally fakes. I think that it is more a question of
economy than a real need of justice. The states wish to control that
devil country to take possession i think of the petrol production.
France haven't take part of that war also coz of economical reasons
also certainly due to the fact that 1/6 of the french population is
muslim, France is at 50% pro iraq. even more than that. They seems
to have forget the help of the usa during the second war II. But
that is just an excuse to make them guilty, but economy is stronger
than morality nowadays, why France will enter in conflict with one
client of them who purchased them weapons ? That will be stupid, to
make simple, France, give them to wimp for being sentenced. I don't
follow really the event of that war and i am not a specialist in
economy. I just try to read some articles here and here to make my
own conclusions. What please me the most in fact is the hypocrisy of
all these peoples. I must admit that I like when they kills each
others. I am sit in the top of the arena and i watch the lions
eating the gladiators.
 
 15. some people don't feel "good" about ideas or actions unless
 they apply universally, whether to all people in a local area, or
 conceptually to all things. is this motivated by fear or pleasure?

Depend of the peoples, both will fit in fonction of the human scum
you will have to face. everything is relative. Difficult to evaluate
a unperfect machine like human.
 
 16. after the rise of black metal as a bedroom hobby, there are so 
 many more people in the genre that it's unrecognizable. what do you 
 think has changed in black metal's ideological stance as a result?

Yes, of course, it changed since all these mass of kids invaded our
cult, the fault comes also from these mainstream magazines who
introduced us these evil bands who use black bc rich warlocks and
silver bullet belts. The result has lead us to vulgarity and
mediocrity spreaded by frustrated peoples in quest of identity. I
personally consider them as sub-humans.
 
 17. what's your opinion of anarchism?

I appreciate order and discipline, i like hierarchy and respect of
valors. Anarchy lead only peoples to go on the street with cartons
where is written on it. No war !.  They usually smells bad and they
are also very vulgar peoples in general. Anarchism is for street
peoples. Not for someone like me.
 
 18. what are the advantages of mass publishing something that only
 an elite can understand, versus trying to limit distribution of
 something the masses can understand to an elite? how does this
 apply to metal print zines, metal music and democracy?

I have nothing against the mass publishing until the moment they
spread intelligents informations. I like to read and to make my own
decision on every subjects. To limit something mean nothing in my
opinion, maybe just a lack of money. I don't care about the fact if
something is limited or not, i just care about the quality of the
product, for example, Dead can dance is not something limited like
the requiem of Mozart and they are both admirable. On the other
hand, you have all these "cult' bands who are doing horrible
cassettes on the garage on their parents. Everything is relative,
limitation do not mean quality.
 
 19. what changes will occur in the next celestia release?

Many I guess since we try to always add a certain plus to our work,
we try to devellop our music on a natural direction without thinking
about the opinion of others. Most of the time, like you know,
peoples hate us. Metal press seems to not be interested by us. So,
Celestia is condemned to stay under. A music limited on the good
sence for the term for those who like the Courvoisier's Cognac wine.
The other can continue to drink cola and budweiser and worship
Darkthone, we are definitively not from the same world.
 
 20. do you see yourselves as making a better form of black metal,
 or just making black metal true to its own ideals, or creating a
 new form of music?

True to our own ideals. Celestia is defined as Black metal, but
maybe our next album will be just played with one grand classical
piano. We are not trapped into a kind of music like these bands who
play the copy of the copy of the copy of the copy of... Celestia is
Celestia. nothing less, nothing more.
 
 21. you also run a label known for its quality releases - how do
 you find time to do all of this?

hehe, i try to do my best. I work professional with my hated label
and when i have free time, i usually work for Celestia and my other
musical projects. 24hrs days are a bit too short in fact. I enjoy my
life after all, even if sometimes i am facing some unpleasant
difficulties who leads me to suffer, but that is like that. WIthout
that, i will not have created Celestia maybe and i will be a clone
working in a slave factory and having a fat wife waiting for me at
home. it is fortunately not that case...
 
 22. what is your opinion of drugs and alcohol?

I tried several kind of drugs coz i am someone curious by nature. I
like to drink some alcohols sometimes, french red wines like
Chateauneuf du Pape, Bordeaux. I appreciate also Champagne and
Cognac wines, but i don't like to abuse of that and I drink very
rarely in fact. Only during special circumstances.
 
 23. europe seems to be changing to the "american" model of letting 
 anyone into the land and giving them a part of the power in each 
 country. is this a positive change?

That's unfortunately true. I went to the states and i was extremely
schocked by the educational level of peoples there. I had the chance
also to meet really intelligents american peoples fortunately. EU is
trying to copy the US model coz USA reprensent a certain positive
level for us, not for me, but for all these eastern peoples, it
seems that the east is attracted by the east like Fureiss can be
attracted by a young lady requesting the loss of her virginity. I
don't think it is a positive change, i think that the old EU had it
own identity and that we are destroying the remains of a noble
develloped society. France is also the land where every sub races
can come and have a job and can be well considered. An ugly nigger
here, one who smell very bad, you know, usually attract the most
beautiful french girls, so these creatures are coming here each days
by full big planes, they are destroying our noble advanced society
and we are trying to adapt our society to them by creating fast food
cheap restaurants and uglies commercial centers where they can find
clones tools. I am not racist at all, but I realize that the
presence of these peoples is not good for our country, I would
prefer to live in one country where only white peoples will be able
to live. I regret that A. Hitler lost that's war, in fact,i would
have prefered to be under the control of the nazi germany than to
see my country invaded the a third world culture. The nazis has a
certain style, our invaders do not have any. The problem is by
telling these kind of things, many peoples will think that we are
nazis. That is not the case. We just hate mediocrity and we do not
have any political position. We are just sincere.

 24. america, and its leadership of christians and jews, has been 
 trying to coerce other nations to participate in the pro-israel war 
 against iraq. do you have thoughts on this issue?

Yes, they wanted maybe to have more clients for their future
business. Like i said earlier everything is political and jewishly
controled. It's for the reason following that war on tv is not
really interesting coz what the french tv is showing to us is fake,
i saw one report the other days and they were showing us a '"poor"
iraquian family, that is not information, they just want to take a
political position and this really do not work with me. The only
thing i wish is a total human cataclysm. 100000 dead peoples will be
cool for that planet.
 
25. do you think black metal will exist in ten years?

That's a good question, I hope not. Do you think that planet will
still exist in ten years ?
 
26. please say anything you feel is relevant here, including filling 
in for anything i forgot.

I hate free publicity. I don't advice anyone to try to get our cd.
it will lead you only to dissapointment.
I must thank you for that interesting interview and wish you the
best for your tormented virtual publication.

CELESTIA
membres.lycos.fr/celestia/

-~-

Mike
of CIANIDE

1. when you formed cianide, how did you describe the music you
wanted to create?

Always was, is and will be:  DEATH METAL.  Granted we're probably
not the exact textbook definition of the genre, but that is what
we've always set out to be.  Could explain why we've managed to
outlast a lot of more "popular" or "successful" of the bands that
started around the same time we did.  Our vision has always stayed
the course and to play any other kind of music would just be stupid.

2. of the artists who influenced you, which most directly affected 
your conception of the style of music you create with cianide?

Of all of our influences the bands that immediately come to mind are
FROST/HELLHAMMER (of course!), SLAUGHTER and MASTER/DEATHSTRIKE.
Bands that incorporated various speeds/tempos as opposed to just
speed for speed's sake 100% of the time. Another band is POST
MORTEM.  "Coroner's Office" is a fuckin' classic!

3. the first cianide album seemed to me to be more grinding than 
death metal, straying into the ambiguous and underexplored territory 
where bolt thrower, blood and later napalm death wander. a) do you 
think this perception is (semi-)accurate and b) what do you see as 
the differences emerging on later albums?

a. I guess you could say it's accurate, though at the time we were
just doing what we were able to do and not giving a fuck. Looking at
the big picture, not a lot of bands call themselves Death Metal and
play the sick, slow, dirgy stuff.  I guess they call it gay "stoner"
now.  Remember when it used to be called DOOM METAL??
b. Well obviously we've picked up the pace a bit!!  Theres only so
many times you can hit an open E chord over a slow drum beat.  Now
were doing open E over faster beats!!  Har Har! Seriously, slow
heavy shit was just the order for that time for us.  Mainly we got
Andy on drums and he was more capable to handle faster stuff after
Jeff left, so things just got faster from there.  We haven't
completely abandoned our death-dirge roots though.

4. over the course of development, cianide has landed - for lack of
a better phrase - into the category of "old school death metal,"
joining luminaries such as asphyx and morpheus descends. how do you
think this music is different in its aim from other forms of death
metal?

For us, we're just playing the music that WE want to hear.  If
people call it "old school" well fuck, we are old school!  I can't
speak for any other bands, but for us, this is the only way we know
how to do it.  It's hard to pin down because nowadays bands like
Cannibal and Morbid Angel are labeled "old school" but I think you
must be referring to an actual "old school" sound.  If that's what
you mean, you could say a band like CIANIDE is sort of a
preservation of very early death metal.  We're not looking to break
any new ground with this, nor do we have any aspirations for
commercial success (though that would be nice if it came along!!),
just trying to emulate the sound and style of the ancient GODS OF
DEATH.

5. someone once drew the distinction between hum-along metal like 
motorhead or venom, and "subversive metal," meaning stuff that tries 
to be avantgarde, progressive or regressive. it seems to me that no 
band since venom has captured the sense of popular and hum-along 
(really, is there a better term for this? songs that stay in your 
head and are relevant to aspects of everyday normal life) metal in 
the same way cianide has, with bouncy, heavy, catchy songs hammering 
home simple ideas in smoothly integrated structures. how did you 
achieve this, and what are your thoughts on the accuracy of these 
statements? (i am no big fan of the hacked together terms like hum-
along and subversive, but for now am not sure what i'd use in their 
place except extensive tedious descriptions)

I agree with the statement and take it as a compliment!  Again we
just write what we like and want to hear.  Every riff we write has
to fucking kill, no filler songs or parts with CIANIDE as far as I'm
concerned.  Bands with catchy choruses is the style of metal that we
grew up with so it only makes sense that we would emulate that.
Even stuff like early Death, Terrorizer, Repulsion, Massacre and
even Morbid Angel had choruses that you could consider "catchy".  I
can appreciate bands that play overly technical, but most of the
time I prefer something that sticks in my head and kicks my ass.

6. cianide seems to have stayed with no single label for more than
an album. is this true? are there reasons the band had for doing
this, or was this a product of what i call the "usual label chaos,"
e.g. labels falling apart, dropping bands at random and going
bankrupt?

Our first label, Grindcore merely changed their name to Red Light so
our first two releases were basically on the same label.  They went
chapter 13, so we did DDD with Lost Horizon.  That label was
basically two friends of ours wanting to do a label.  They were
flipping the bill and nobody was asking us to dance at the time so
we said, "what the fuck". They went belly up also. Merciless re-
released DDD on vinyl and did our latest, Divide and Conquer and are
all set to our our forthcoming "The Age of Hell's Rebirth".  So far
so good.

7. someone once told me i was not "open-minded" for automatically 
hating some band that attempted to merge alternative rock and metal; 
what do you think?

Liking different styles of music is actually just a matter of taste
and really has nothing to do with having a so-called "open mind",
which has been such an over-used term ever since the 80's that it is
now pointless and irrelevant to label anybody as such (closed
minded).  What this egotistical person actually means is, 'my
opinion in music is much better than yours because I have no real
convictions and simply like what is deemed "cool" by the mainstream,
even though I think I'm hip and into new and crazy things just to
impress ditzy college girls'.
Tell that person to stick his alternative/metal/rock/bastard hybrid
up his open-minded ass.

8. metal has changed in demographic since the so-called "glory
(hole) days" of 1988-1994, with a broader and bigger audience now
tuning in to even the most antisocial black metal. what changes do
you think this demographic has caused to occur in the music itself?

From what I can see, when a band achieves some sort of success be it
either underground or commercial, the band will try to write what it
thinks is popular in an attempt to "keep up with the times" (ie.
Entombed, Morgoth, Mayhem).  On the other side of the coin, if a
band is successful and stays true to their original ideals, they
still will get dismissed by all the death-metal weenies and black
metal trendies who are only into listening to shitty bands that YOU
never heard of.  So in essence, nothing has really changed.

9. will you ever work to re-release the old cianide albums?

There has been talk about re-releasing the first two on vinyl but
nothing serious as of yet.  We are planning on putting all our demos
out on a double cd, with all kinds of extras and shit.  Should rule.

10. "a descent into hell" seems to me, sonically, to be one of the
"heaviest" albums ever created, and not just through production -
how did you achieve this, and what was your aim in creating that
album? (see disclaimer above about hacked together terms again)

Again, we just do what we do.  I think at that time we were tuned to
like Z or something.  We did all of those songs live, most only in
one or two takes. The kicks and snare were sampled though.  I
remember after we got done doing the first song, the engineers came
in and they were like, "everything sounds good guys but we do need
more bass" we thought they were serious. Then they started laughing
at us and they were like, "jeezzzzus, you guys are FUCKING HEAVY!!"
"Decent..." is also a personal favorite of mine.  I think it's
impossible to get that sound back again but who knows..............

11. has cianide toured, or is it more of a band that you do when not 
leading a normal life?

Tour??  Shit, we're lucky we play out once a year!!  The time for
touring is past.  We're smart enough to realize early on that
playing underground metal, be it Black, Death or otherwise, wasn't
going to be a very lucrative career choice.  Insecure "we're truer
than thou" hard-on's would probably classify us as hobbyists, and
they may be right.  A hobby is defined as any activity that one
enjoys in their spare time. Though I guarantee you this, we'll still
be doing what we do long after today's hip-name-to-drops have
changed their style/names/haircuts and end up in the washed up file
cut-out bins.

12. to put it bluntly, what are you guys like in real life? are you 
closer to maniacs who live out the lyrics to cianide songs, or 
artists who metaphorically describe what they perceive?

We're just your above average beer swilling metalheads. What you see
is what you get. No tattoos, no gay piercings.  Dirty, Ugly, loud
and proud!

13. one other thing about cianide that is gratifying: a sense of 
humor. what do you see as the role of humor in "serious" metal? do 
you consider cianide a serious band? if not, what motivates you to 
have the standards you do in the creation of the music?

I'm not really into "joke" or "message" bands.  Injecting humor into
Metal can be tricky.  It's hard to do it correct without sounding
lame.  Obviously we're not a joke band, but we like to inject some
humor, like our thank you lists are always filled with jags. POST
MORTEM were the originators of that.  At least that's who we stole
it from!!  I love who I am and love being a Metalhead.  But there
are some people out there who take this music and themselves way too
seriously who are just rubbers. It's just music after all.  Who
know's though, I'm sure to some people it looks like I take it too
seriously.  The grass is always greener...............

14. if you could tour with any two death metal bands in history, 
which would they be?

Slaughter - original line-up
Master - original line-up

15. what do you think of the following:

1. asphyx - I have "The Rack" on cassette.....good heavy death metal
2. master - The early stuff is immortal...the new stuff ain't so bad
either
3. suffer (swe) - never heard them
4. kittie - never heard them
5. carnage (swe) - Entombed clones

16. do you have any views on religion? how religion effects
politics? how this affects us now?

Religion and politics are needed to keep the general population in
line.  I think they're both brilliant.  You can't have people just
running wild, doing what they want.  It sounds good on paper and
makes for a lot of cool lyrical ideas, be it Metal, Punk or
otherwise, but when you return back to the real world the majority
of people out there simply cannot handle the responsibility of being
an individual, and I don't want to deal with them.  It's not my job.
  
17. what are your views on wealth, and its ideal relationship to 
individual humans?

People who go around saying, "money isn't everything" are usually
already rich and never had to work hard to achieve their
wealth/success.  Give me enough money so I don't ever have to work
again in my life and I'll show you one happy, fat little man!!!

18. do you support or reject anti-bestiality laws?

Hey, whatever blows yer skirt up!

19. what in your view are the a) strengths and b) weaknesses that 
metal took on by going "underground" instead of attempting to be a 
mainstream genre?

For one thing, since all true metal is underground it is not
scrutinized and kept in check by the politically correct mainstream.
Bands can say and write whatever they feel without any pressure of
pissing this one off or offending others. Imagine how lame your
favorite metal bands would become if they had to kow-tow to the
whole music industry just to create music.  I have one word for
people who may disagree with this: METALLICA!!  I love the fact that
metal is underground.  The people who want it know where to get it.
It sucks for the bands who I'm sure need to play to eat, but that's
not my problem.

20. what do you think of nu-metal? can metal ever be in the 
mainstream, like it was with black sabbath?

Any band can get big if marketed properly and shoved down the masses
throats. For instance, if MTV tells their audience that Christraping
Black Metal is "cool" and says that the bandmembers are "cute", all
Black Metal bands would get huge and you would not like them
anymore.  Sabbath were/are huge, but in their day, they never got
any radio airplay (except for "Paranoid" late at night), let alone
videos.  They just did it through word of mouth and constant
touring. As for nu-metal, it's just like the 80's.  Instead of big-
hair you have buzz-cuts. Instead of eyeliner you have piercings.
Instead of glamed out clothes you have tribal tattoos.  The music is
just a watered down, bastardized, marketed and hyped version of the
real deal.

21. does metal keep evolving, or is it cyclic?

Everything is the same, just different haircuts!!

22. what's the next cianide album going to be like?

Just like the last one, except HEAVIER!!

23. will you ever do a live album?

Hopefully someday.  Guess you need to play live to do that!!!

24. what is your stance on mp3 trading of rare materials?
It doesn't affect me either way, if I hear something I'll just go
out and buy it.

I'm the same way, if I like something, I'll go and buy it.  I have
other things to do on my computer than sitting there waiting for a
song to download, like looking for porn!!  I do think it's good for
people to hear what a band sounds like from their website etc before
they go out and buy it.  It's just another medium.

25. did cianide have any demos? if so, what were they?

We did three official demo's:  "Funeral" in 1990, "Second Life" in
91' and "Cianide Kills" in I think 1993.  We also had 2 different
three-song promos for DDD and Divide......, but those weren't really
for sale.  Everything will probably be on a single release for
CURSED PRODUCTIONS if we can get off our lazy asses and get started
on it.

26. are reactions to cianide different in europe and asia versus the 
USA?

Reactions seem to be pretty much the same everywhere.  We're
regarded as throwbacks from all over!!

27. are there any metal zines or websites you read, and, if so, what 
makes them useful to you?

The only zines I'll plug that come to mind are Metal Curse and
Midwest Metal cuz they are cool!

28. "will metal survive" the wave of hip-hop music in america?

It already is as far as I can tell.  Rap is already regarded as a
joke whose core audience is rich, white, suburban kids.   Hip-hop
and rap do provide a very important service to us Metal fans however
for which I'm truly thankful:  BY KEEPING A GREAT MAJORITY OF ALL
MORONS, MEATHEADS AND FUCKUP'S OUT OF OUR SCENE!!!!  Every time I
happen to turn on some MTV special or video, I get a big smile and
feel great inside.  That's right dummies, keep being spoon-fed your
entertainment you mindless fools!  Yo Dawg!!!  Bling Bling!!
Comedy!!

29. does metal's being different from jazz, blues, hip-hop make it a 
cultural or political statement?

The fact that underground metal is the only form of rock and roll
that has yet to be turned into a marketable mainstream commodity
surely says something.  It almost happened to death metal in the
early 90's.  Then Nirvana killed that, thankfully!!  STAY
UNDERGROUND!!!

30. anything i forgot you'd care to add?
I think you covered it all my man!!

Thanks for the interview.  Visit the official CIANIDE WEBSITE at
www.cianidemetal.com

CIANIDE
www.cianidemetal.com

-~-

King Fowley
of DECEASED

1. cursed productions recently issued "the radiation years," a
collection of early demos. is this the complete deceased pre-label
discography?

Actually it's not! 'The evil side of religion' our first demo still
needs to surface complete. And will very soon! Probably on Cursed
Productions as well. Actually in all honesty there was a home studio
demo before 'luck of the corpse' l.p was recorded. With 'Fading
Survival', 'Terrifying Spectres', 'Industrial Tumor', and
'Psychedelic Warriors' that is 'lost' to me and the band. The master
was lost in my pile of cassette tape hell, that is my collection. I
only know one guy who may have it and it's a guy named Yoshio Cain
who plays for the Japanese band Shadow now! He was a die-hard
Deceased freak and i sent it only out to him back in 1989! I hope it
is 'found' one day! It's got some wild stuff on it :)

Other then that, only rehearsals and stuff like that is floating in
'the vaults' :)

2. when you started out as a band, it seemed you were one of the
first to bring technical and speed metal elements, like voivod and
razor (?) influences, to the music. was this a planned decision, or
a natural culmination in the ways metal was being made at the time?

We were so fucking high on any drug we could get our hands on we
were off in 'freakout' zone. We were honestly just trying to be the
most 'over the top' band ever. We were taking speed from Sodom,
Slayer, DRI, punk, thrash, etc. And mixing it with distorted styled
lyrics of dread and death ala 'War and Pain' era Voivod, and Venom,
Blessed Death, etc. Then 'attempting' to put in some Voivod
weirdness guitar chords, and some Mercyful Fate 'evil', just all of
it on hand! We had no idea where it would take us! It was very
straight forward and insane! It was basically just a bunch of long-
haired teenagers in Slayer and Venom shirts going nuts for metal and
aggresson in 1985!

3. the first deceased i ever heard, "luck of the corpse," had tight
and fast rhythmic arrangements and workout drumming; what atmosphere
were you intending on that album? how did it turn out relative to
your expectations?

Well 'Luck..' was an experience! I got good and bad memories of that
'era' of Deceased. Original guitarist Doug Souther and me were
completely on different levels as to where the band needed to go
both musically and personality wise at that junction in the bands
life. So it 'clashed'! Neither of us was right or wrong. Just
'different' in our beliefs! I think the other guys (Mark and Les)
wanted to go with my 'angle' more so, and Doug took offense. He was
really ready to move on and away from the band. So recording that
record had it's 'negativity' to it. Musically it's just too fast for
it's own good! Trying to still live up to our 'faster then you'
attitdues and trying to release something 'good' for death metal
fanatics the world over to bite into. Everythnig was 'rushed' and in
the end it sits a bit 'dissapointing'. I loved the songs and I loved
the chance to release a record with Relapse and be thought of as
'competent' enough to record and be on a record label. That was
great! It was 'neat' to see your face and music on a cd and vinyl,
cassette. It felt 'good'! We were 'growing up' a bit and we had to
start somewhere 'fresh' as a band.

4. when you think of the people who enjoy your music, is there
anything they have in common (besides enjoying deceased)?

I'm sure there is! I personally like to call Deceased music
supporters, 'friends'! I don't like the word 'fans'. Makes you think
you are 'better' then them! We are all 'even steven' in my eyes. We
all get up out of bed, eat, drink, sleep, love music, got our
hobbies, families, etc. That's all it is to me. 'Seperation' between
bands and their music supporters is pretty 'high ego' to me. No
need! Let's all just have fun and keep on laughing through as many
good times as we can!!! Look out for each other and keep on keeping
on!

5. people sometimes ask me if i feel i'm being disrespectful to the
dead by celebrating morbidity through music. what do you think about
this question?

Hmmm -- good question! Morbidity through music. I don't personally
see any disresect in it. Death is imminent to all and we all have to
challenge it daily, every day on earth. No one knows the exact
moment they will leave this place and move on to life beyond. Is
there life beyond? Is it peace? Is it despair that awaits? No one
truly knows. It's life's biggest mystery!

As soon as you're born you're dying. I talk about it and 'subject'
it cuz it too intrigues me as a human being. That's why 'deceased'
was such th eperfect name for our band. Being the lyricist of the
band i know in my heart how i feel and what my words are being meant
when i write them. I am a very 'up' guy in my living personality.
But death is always looming in the back of my brain for sure. It's
just something that truly intrigues me! Death to some is sadness. To
others it's joy, a time of celebration. To me it's just 'death' and
it's unknown what will be 'next'!

6. metal has gone through huge changes since the middle 1990s. with
the internet and the personal computer, it now seems everyone has a
label or a zine or a band, and there's tons and tons of metal
"information" with perhaps very little data. what do you think the
next stage will be?

Well it is always 'evolving' with the times and technology. Some for
the better some for worse. But that's 'life'! I appreciate anyone
who sincerely sits down to write an article or passes on msic to a
friend to possibly enjoy. It's 'word of mouth' to me that still runs
the metal 'underground'. I dont like label created 'hype' and
'buzz', never did! Let the music do the talking is my motto. Too
many people sadly fall into the 'live for the press' mentality. Bad
reviews send off interest to some people. While a 'shining' review
makes them instantly 'love' it. Too weird to me!

I got my own mind, and I think and choose for myself what works for
me musically as a music supporter! Sure, take all 'aspects' into
consideration. Cuz a review can 'help' in your selection, but in the
end let it be no one but you who decides what 'you' like! As for
'next stages', hmmm?! It's hard to say! The internet/computer is
definitely running the show now. It's quick, updated at any given
time, right there for anyone to take in! I say that will run the
gament for some time still!
 
7. i was talking with ray miller of adversary, a band from indiana,
and i said that in many ways i respect most the styles from when the
styles we have today were newly forming. he suggested i listen to
early deceased, and i did and heard many influences in the music.
what do you think each style of metal (heavy metal, melodic heavy
metal, speed metal, death metal, and crossovers like hardcore, etc)
represented to the generation that produced it, in terms of both
music and attitude? when you brought together these styles, could
you recognize each distinct impulse in your work, or did they gel
into a new language?

Well i've always loved music. I mean anything and everythnig that
got me 'going' i loved! It is my life's greatest ecstasy. Early on I
fell in love with the Beatles,. I was literaly 3-4 year sold. The
choruses... the 'greatness' was quite easy to understand to me. Then
I got into the 'hoopla' of Kiss. The blood of Simmons on the covers,
the 'image' and visuals. It's perfect for an 8 year old to sink
his/her teeth into! It got me into wanting and craving more
outlandish and more 'over the top' music. Trying to conquer the
'extreme'! What is now tediously 'mellow' in music standards of
today (Van Halen, Ted Nugent, Heart, Benatar, etc.) was once 'over
the top' and pretty darn 'heavy' stuff! I just kept poking my head
around in mags, record stores, all of it to 'find' something to fix
my craving. This got me to the 'gory' Eddie and Maiden, razor blade
through fingers artwork of Priest, the 'devils and witches' of
Sabbath! All of it! Which in turn got me to Motorhead, Ramones,
Plasmatics, Venom, etc.

It's all a big 'turn of the screw'! It just continues to move on and
no one can slow it down. So when i got into deceased and we formed
the band we knew deep down all of us had a common bond for 'muis'c
first and formost. Sure, we were 'caught up' in th eheavy metal
mania of the times. We died for sodom, exciter, venom, fate,
manaowar, all of it! But we still had our 'elders' of musical uprise
(The Cars, Kiss, Journey, Blondie, Foreigner, etc) in our hearts as
well.

We were living the life style of 'full blown heavy metal' but we had
our hearts set in music!

So when we started writing we just blew it out as fast and furious
as we could. Beyond "caught up" in the times of aggression and drug-
fed energy. The 'attitude' you speak of was just 100% 'us'! It was
'Deceased'! We just got in and 'did it'! We took all of the aspects
of music we loved, speed of hardcore and thrash, melody of
traditional heavy metal, choruses and 'structures' of traditional
kiss styled rock n roll, and the 'zaniness' and off kilter of punk
and the ilk.

It 'worked' for us! Sure some 'genres' worked better for us. But it
was still all just a big band blender and we kept feeding it with
more musical vegetables :)

8. it seems to me much of the metal from 1978 onward would have lost
impetus and extremity if it weren't for the influence of hardcore
music. how do you think on this issue?

Yeah, I can see that indeed! 'Extreme' standards have gone 'haywire'
n the last 20 odd years. It is the 'way of the world' on all
accounts. Everything is faster paced in the world. More 'raw' and
much less 'polished'. No one has time to 'stop' anymore. Alot less
'love' in the world, sadly so much hate and destruction. A total
'kill or be killed' mentality!

No one has time to 'relax'. It's just 'go go go'! So obviously the
people creating the music are gonna 'release' it in the same way.
It's all humans jsut 'being human'! That's just how it is!

9. do you read any zines or websites today?

All the time! I'm always taking in the words and wisdom of others.
Knowledge is man's greatest gift, and at times our worse enemy.

But it to me is food for thought and impossible to not ingest.

As I said anyone who sincerely takes time to put up a musical
related site or a fanzine, magazine and you read it and instantly
fall in love with their 'personality' or the 'charm' of the crafted
entity, that's just a great feeling! More power to ya'! I know  i'll
be reading and searching it all out.

10. do you think the political climate in the USA will be more or
less tolerant of death metal in five years?

I say it'll be the same as of today. It seems to 'stay' under the
radar al lthe time. It seems no one's minding the 'smaller' people
of the earth and globe right now, music or non music related. But i
see a slow but steady 'rising' of this around the world and in time
it will outnumber or truly challenge the 'theories' and practices
and beliefs of alot of the world. Geesh remember when Dee Snider was
'sooooooooooooo bad' in the governments eyes?! Wow! How far we've
come in 20 years!

11. around "fearless undead machines," it seemed to me that your
style as a band shifted from aspiring to a death metallish sound to
more of what you were doing with doomstone's first album, namely
making heavy metal using some of the techniques from death metal.
this to me was a brilliant move, as it put you closer in touch with
your roots, aspirations and musical loves. how is it that you as a
band can pull something like that off, and immortal could, but
virtually every other musician appears mediocre when they attempt
something like that?

Well, that's some nice words coming from you, and we truly
appreciate it! All I can say about that 'time' is that we as a band
had decided we needed to complelty build on our 'musical strengths'!
To sincerely cut the 'fat' and 'extras' of our sound up to then
('Blueprints..' l.p was very bizzare and 'all over the place'
musically) and do what 100% worked for us! We were still 'searching'
for our 'perfect identity' in music and we at that time, I beleive,
found it! Guitarist Mike Smith came forth and said 'i write guitar
riffs this way and this is what i want to write in this band'. I
took it into consideration as the band's 'arranger' of songs. Mark
and Les (guitar and bass) also put their ideas and words into
persepctive and it really felt 'right'.  It was a sincere 'bonding'
of the band both musically and spiritualy! We 'got on wth it' and
delivered our finest record up to that point in our eyes. It was
very well recieved by the industry and that felt good to us. Doing
it completely 'our way' and being accepted for it! From there it's
all just 'fell into place' since.

12. i'm told that king fowley is still a very active tape trader.
how do you find the time? and what do you trade?

Well tapes are now cd'rs in our 'technologically advanced' world!
Haha

I love to 'pass on' the music to others who care to listen!. I trade
with anyone that wants to spend the time to burn and learn as much
as I do. I got so much music I can not afford to buy at this time
sadly. And I got tons of music I have collected through my many,
many years in the music field in return.

There's no greater feeling then passing over a Demon Flight cd burn
to a friend and watching them get the same smile I got when i first
heard it! Or the 'cheer' from the guy who says 'man that fucking
Griffin you sent me is bad ass'! It just feels 'right' and makes me
smile every damn time. I find the time cuz there' s always time for
things you love to do. That's one of my personal 'life' ways of the
world!

13. were there any other deceased side-projects besides doomstone?

Well, Deceased-related, no not really! Unless you count a few 'one
off' sessions with silly named 'projects' me and Mark have done like
'Masbah', our tribute to Japan's Casbah and early Master from
Chicago. It was a jam session and we just went 'silly' haha. I got
that on tape somewhere, and i believe that was 1991. Also there's
'talk 'of me and Mark doing 'rock brigade' an all 80's rock thing
where we cover Aldo Nova, Gary Moore, Fist, and Triumph songs, etc.!
Les Snyder was/is in Doomstone along with me and that was fun.
Doomstone has gone all over the place using 'session 'guys and just
'mixing it up' to confuse us as well as others. Now I do have a side
band called October 31. It's not Deceased-related outside of me
being part of it, but i really enjoy the times and music that band
has created! 'Traditional' heavy metal is what we file that under!

14. does metal exist in the mainstream any longer?

It doesn't matter to me. The music is the same to my ears! The
identity of the 'captivating' audience has long gone back to the
'die hards'. And that's how I personally see it fit. It's not for
everyone and it's really by it's own 'musical law' not to be
concieved as very 'commercially viable'. It has it's 'surges' and
it's a rollercoaster love affair to some. But to me it's just music
and it's always gonna be there for those who want it! I know i
always will!!!!!!

15. what do you make of this hip-hop influence in nu-metal -
artistic advancement, or tool of the labels to make music more like
that which they have trained the sheep to buy?

Wow man! I really am the wrong guy to 'invite' this into metal
music. That 'style' of art never did a damn thing for me. Outside or
inside the genre of metal music. Just does't 'click' for me in the
least! Some took to it instantly, others it 'grew on'. To me it just
does not work!!! It tries to break down the 'barriers' that as I
mentioned metal music kinda set its self in firmly many, many years
ago! The 'funkiness' of it isn't needed for metal. The 'ghetto' vibe
is just so 'out of place' in the metal genre. Let it be its own
'entity' and stop trying to 'heap' it in with the trappings and
undying spirit of heavy metal music and it wont be a problem with
me!

16. old metal records seemed to me to be a brilliant project,
because each generation of metalheads ages and then the music they
found meaningful, especially the rarities, is forgotten and all we
know of that time are the bands with excellent advertising budgets.
is there a way to combat this generational loss in metal?

Well, I tried! Sadly human nature came into play again. And what was
once a great dream and ambition of mine became tarnished with false
promises and greedy people pretty quick. I tried in vain to keep the
label going forward from day one. But too many 'ex band members'
forgot what it was to play and record music and let it be heard by
any and all they could. They wanted all of 'this' and all of 'that'.
Like I was to reimburse them for being shit on by their record
labels of years ago. I'm just a dude into heavy metal music and I
was doing all I could to 'better' the cult past by re-reelasing and
upgrading formats of their music from a time ago. I'd get old band
members of bands I loved names out of phone books and call them up
and talk about putting their stuff out again. Some instantly
'clicked' with me and my ideas and some past and we went our own
ways without a problem. But it was the empty promises and sudden
changes of thought half wa through projects that got me 'down' on it
all. I'd press a bands c.d and then they'd 'change' their mind. Or
something or someone would surface with a not as enthusiastic
feeling for the event!

You know if I was to please every person in every band I was in
touch with I'd never have released jack shit! Every band has
'differences' and years later some could 'give a shit' and some
don't wanna know at all. It got old and I just tried to put it to
rest. The label's still around in small spurts but it's never to be
the same. Some bands appreciated my sincerity, and we still remain
great friends, while others now knock me in their 'revival'
interviews from nostalgic metal, retro- mags etc.

It hurts to see that sometimes, but I know what I did and how I
approached it. And i can 100% always live with myself for that!

17. is it true that most metalheads quit at 30?

Probably! Some call it 'the music of youngsters'! And 30 seems to
stop the youngster ball rolling for some. Not me! Gonna be 35 in a
few months. And I find it healthy, life giving, and still 100% a
part of every day I exist on! To me, it's all in the way you look at
things.

18. do you think paranoia in this time of history is warranted on
the part of the citizen?

Yes! Too many croonies and back stabbers, fakes, cheats, liars, out
there. Who sleeps with their windows open anymore at night!? Sad
isn't it! Laziness, greed, the need to 'stay up' with another
persons fortunes plays evil tricks on the mind of many. The 'whoever
dies with th emost toys wins' mentality is fucking pathetic! I say
take what you got and build on it. Some obviously have it easier in
their means/ways to 'survive'. Some deserve it, some don't!
 
But the cards are drawn, make your own dreams! Paranoia is indeed
'needed' at this point in life. From this horribly, crummy war, to
the indecencies and anger that most of the free world puts on each
other daily. It's fucking sad! Human beings, a dying breed! One
day...extinction!

19. while your early material was urgent, it seems your newer work
is more medium paced. what caused this change, in your view?

Urgent was the drugs and the 'need' to stay up with the speed
factor. Our mentality was speed is 'extreme' and we were wanting to
be part of the 'extreme'! We don't feel that 'urgency' in that way
anymore! We love fast! Trust me im' a hyper spazz 'fast' guy! Haha

But it's now 'called for' when needed! I do say 'its alive' off our
lastest e.p is still pretty frantic and indeed 'fast'!

It's all in the song and emotion of the day!

20. how did creating the doomstone album "for those whom satan hath
joined" influence your outlook on songwriting in deceased?

In no real way really! It was just a project that took off in a real
bigggg way for awhile. People really liked the 'Sabbath edge'! The
darker substance. The slower 'brooding' of the pace of the songs for
the most part!

It's got a great place in metal music. Cuz so many who listen to
this genre have that 'twisted' underframe.

But as far as Deceased goes, it didn't really influence me or the
band in the least!

21. do you listen to any black metal besides venom?

Well what's 'black metal' anymore? The gurggling, non heavy , non
catchy crud of something like Darkthrone? I despise that horrible
shit! To me it has to 'brood' it has to 'lurk' it has to create the
'dark' side of things in both atmosphere and personality. That fast
insane blast, garage punk/electric shaver styled guitar, and
unimpressive or convincing vocals stuff don't so it for me! I just
prefer the 'trappings' of a Venom 'Sacrifice' or a Mercyful Fate's
'Into the Coven' anyday! I listen to tons of the newer stuff out
there and often 'hyped' up. And I hope to hear something i can grab
onto. But sadly it get sput to the side and discarded over time. Cuz
it don't have depth or stayin gpower for my tastes in music. I think
the last great 'black metal' record I heard and sincerely
appreciated was 'Ritual' by Master's Hammer! And that's at least 10
years old now! I'm still waiting and hoping for more 'darkness' to
surface.

22. what were the handful of most influential bands during the
1980s? 1990s?

Do you mean for me??? Voivod, Venom, Fate, Slayer, Maiden,
Queensryche, Motorhead, were big ones for my Deceased musical
'ideas' in the 80's!

The 90's brought me fewer bands cuz my seeds were set!  

I wasn't as 'keen' on 'influential' bands like Fear Factory or
Deicide or that type!

I am set in the 80s for sure! Though I love tons of music made in
the 90's as well! Just not as 'influenced' by it as a player! One
band I truly admire from the "90's" is The Gathering. Beautiful
people and gifted as hell musicians and song-writers!

23. did these bands differ markedly from the bands of the 1970s?

For me it sure did! Cuz the 70s belonged to the radio for me as a
kid! By the time I was into less known 'album tracks' by radio
artists of my 'childhood' it was almost 1980!
I was the 'hit song' guy! But I quickly learned there's tons of
songs the radio doesn't play that really got my goose :)

24. what do you think bands in the 2010 decade will be like? will
there be a resolution to mainstream versus underground, black versus
death, funk beats versus metal beats, etc?

Who really knows? I just keep watching this 'segregation' unfold
from the sidelines and some of it is justified while some is just
plain silliness. I really don't care where it goes really. As i said
earlier music is... Music!!! You like something, like it to death!
Who's up who's down, who's got the upper hand!

My advice is to just play from the heart with all that you've got
inside cuz that's all you have at the end of the day!

25. referencing the previous question, it seems to me that metal
uses percussion differently than most mainstream music: where
mainstream music creates a bounce and an expectation of its
fulfillment, metal creates a driving structure which encloses change
in harmonic/melodic patterns (by other instruments). what ideas
differ between these two groups?

Metal music is known as a driving force so you will find it staying
on tap and 'in the pocket' most of the time! Metal has a great love
for dynamics in the traditional sense ala Maiden or say early
Queensryche! But i'd like to see more 'emotion' in metal music
myself! I love to feel and live the song. The ups and downs of the
music. Th topics and choice of ideas could be so widely expanded on
in music and tempos and all! Mercyful Fate in the early days were
masters of this. The percussion of metal also leaves alot ot be
desired at times for me as a listener. That's why me as a drummer go
to a Phil Erhart of kansas or a Carl Palmer of elp for my
'identity'. Cuz that's more 'me' as a player and where I 'inspire'
from. Sure you got the influences of dave lombardo or a kim ruzz as
well. But it's sadly less common to see really 'brilliant' creators
in percussion in more 'extreme' metal music!

Hope to see that change in the future!

26. what non-metal makes your playlists these days?

Well 10 things 'non metal' I've played alot lately include the new
Guano Apes record, any and all No Doubt, Benatar, Berlin's latest
record, early The Fixx, Oingo Boingo, Planet P, Laibach,
Einsturzende Nuebauten, and some Switchblade Symphony!

Tons of bands I been cranking lately! I'm all over the place for
'listening' pleasures! Haha just me being zany I guess!

27. if you could wish positive things for metal in these areas, what
would they be:

Well i'll say this...
A. Bands: to drop the egos alot of them have and be musicians first
and formost! Erase the egos pleaseeeeee! To really cherish and hold
in heart the honor of playing music!
B. Labels: to be more respectful to your artists. Treat them as
hmans and not business cattle. We are all in this together so even
up the angle already!
C. Journalism: to write from the heart and always call it the way
you see it!
D. Philosophy:  to learn by your mistakes, grow everyday, and
challenge 'challenge' on every occasion!

28. it seems to me there are now several live deceased releases,
including a few that didn't make massive distribution. which is your
favorite?

There are? I only know of one! 'Up the tombstones' live from Thrash
Corner! Unless you count the old cassettes we made in the later
80's! :) I'm confused here. Or drawing a blank! You decide! Haha
We are gonna have some live tracks surfacing soon though! As bonus
songs for cd releases! :)
As for 'up the tombstones', I love the live c.d! It's 'us'! It's the
energy, live attitude, and songs we played of that time! Thanks to
ray at thrash corner for releasing it and 'phantasmagoria' club for
having us!

29. will deceased ever do a massive tour?

It's unknown to me truly! Jobs and home security come first with us.
Family, rent, etc.

Yeah all bands on some level deal with it. But we are us and we
gotta look out for us first off! If we can 'arrange' it then 'yes'
we will indeed be there! Time off from work aint easy to some of the
guys. And I sincerely respect that and understand tenfold. I know if
we can we willlllllllllllll!

30. mr fowley, i have heard you are recovering from lung troubles
that mean you cannot assume your customary position behind the kit.
will this ever change?

It's doubtful! We have a new drummer in Dave 'Scarface' Castillo and
to tell you the  truth, he's just perfect for the band and we will
carry on with him as brother, family, and friend! It's the 'end of
an era' and the beginning of another! Chapter 1 complete! Now onto
chapter 2! Wish us luck! We rise from the grave come midnight!

31. since you gentlemen have survived this long, where most
metalheads are in their teens, do you have any advice about "growing
up" and "life and how to live it"?

Do your best to keep your head about you! Have your spirit in hand
at all time, wear your heart on your sleeve, and keep your elders'
good ways within you. Never look back and never give in! I wish
everyone well in their journey!

32. how would you have me killed for asking so many questions? or,
more apropos to the
interview: is there anything else i forgot that should be answered?

Great interview! It came from the heart and so did my answers!
Thnaks for caring long enough to type this and i wish you only the
best! Check out the websites...

(official) www.upthetombstones.com 

(unoffical) www.deceasedmetal.com 

And email me at kingsley22@starpower.net for any info, etc.

You may need!

Long live the loud!

Thanks a million and one
King Fowley 3/20/03

DECEASED
www.upthetombstones.com

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Yury Arkadin 
of UNRESTRAINED MAGAZINE

1. what made you want to write about metal music?

A variety of reasons led me to this. I was growing more and more
alienated from the state of the underground press each year, which I
felt reflected quite often a real disparity between the quality of
music under discussion and the quality of writing in its reference.
Especially in the last three or four years, with the establishment
and growth of the Internet and the increasing size (or is it
visibility?) of what we sometimes like to call 'the scene', I've
been steadily discouraged with both the writing and the taste of
many of the so-called 'established writers.'  None of them, and
still practically none, seem or seemed to have any appreciation for
the bands I like and share any of my points of view, which I suppose
may be a good thing.  But nonetheless, many bands that I felt were
great were being avoided and blocked out of view, almost like a CNN
broadcast, by these mediocre, pandering, crooked corporate
publications (like Terrorizer and Metal Maniacs, for example).  I
set out to do something about it.  Well, actually... I can't fuck
around; the real cause of my writing in the underground is the
personal therapy... and the free music, of course!

2. what is your favorite form of journalism involving metal music?

Often, interviews.  Setting them down into a narrative format for
certain magazines can be a long and tedious procedure, but coming up
with questions, which for me is very easy, and reading or hearing
the responses afterward, is usually rewarding.

3. what else do you write?

Aside from writing in three magazines, I write various essays, prose
and poetry, mainly inspired by the early Dadaist and Surrealist
artists, classical and romantic literature, nature, inner
reflections and life in general.  Inspiration comes from every facet
of existence, and the well of ideas that I usually carry around with
me can be so intense that I sometimes feel totally overwhelmed if I
don't act upon them.  Like Benedetto Croce would say, minus the
superior mind part... "unless a capacity for thinking be accompanied
by a capacity for action, a superior mind exists in torture."

4. where have you been published?

Nowhere yet, and I have no real desire either to be published in the
future, at least as of today, and at least until I create something
that I'm completely satisfied with.  All of my art is done for
myself, my close circle of friends, and anyone else that I,
personally, feel might benefit from it.  I have no interest in
entertaining a society I have no regard for, and then being mowed
down like grass once the next tornado passes through the village...

5. what is your favorite accomplishment in the underground?

My favorite accomplishment is yet to come, in the tentative form of
my own magazine, willfully within this century, and within my own
lifetime...  I've been planning it for a while.  Hopefully, once I
get the proper software and I set some of my other projects aside,
with time and energy, I can finally make it a reality...!

6. are you able to survive and have a place to live, things to eat,
something to drive via doing metal writing, or do you have a day
job?

I have a place to live at the moment in Philadelphia, and things
could be worse.  Unfortunately, I do have to work like most other
human beings born outside of royalty.  Unrestrained!, the most
prominent magazine that I write in, doesn't pay me for what I do.
They sent me one check for $20 and that was it.  I currently work in
a criminalistics/forensics toxicology lab as a programmer/database
analyst...

7. do you play an instrument?

If we take life as an instrument, then, metaphorically, I play life.
I strum its strings like an old-time bard, singing gay tunes of
autumn.  But in the literal sense, I do play an instrument; I play a
guitar.  I took classical lessons for less than a year before my
teacher had to go back to Europe.  I then slowly lost interest in
this activity (something that I regret), especially when I found my
first job as programmer.  I no longer had sufficient time and energy
after that juncture.  Now I just strum along like the fool that I
am... though I retain in me the memory of reading notation.

8. how would you describe your political alignment?

This is a complicated question.  Officially, I am a registered
'Independent' in the United States, belonging to no party.  On the
less official end of things, my political alignment, if I was to
define it in some general way, through several years of fitful
agitated thinking, from jumping to one extreme to another, is today
best characterized as anarchist. This has been in part influenced
through my reading of French and American anarchist literature.  On
a practical, executive level I make no claim as to the 'efficacy' of
anarchy as a _system_, but as a worldview I think it fits me
perfectly.  I believe that no political 'party', properly defined,
can ever transcend the static confines of its own idealism and
ideology.  Can anarchism be a 'partisan' movement then?  My
particular form of anarchism embraces nothing; it's very much anti-
authoritarian, but it is not myopically idealistic, nor is it devoid
of all value.  Not at all. My thoughts on this matter cannot be
defined in a short statement, so you have to pardon all this
verbosity...  Perhaps the best way to summarize my position on
things is by referring to the tenets or anti-tenets of early
Dadaism. I believe in Dada, thus I value the inversion of all
authority (including that of Dada), and I believe in the
universality of absurdity. Life is absurd.  The fact that you and I
exist, that we sit on this rotating globe in space, pretending to
make our lives meaningful through this communication, is absurd.
Thus, it's my point of view that we must celebrate the absurdity of
life, since, in the words of Shakespeare, 'that which cannot be
avoided, must be embraced.'  My political alignment is Happy...  If
there were a Dadaist party?  Surely I would vote for it, but such
thing is a contradiction in terms...

9. is this the result of experience, or contemplation?

Every action or decision in life must be the result of both.  I
think even a fly, when it decides to go left or right in pursuit of
a fleck of shit on the floor - some flicker of consciousness must
'compel' it to take its course, a scintilla of contemplation. I
think we have to more strictly define the word 'contemplation.'  To
give it a human-only connotation would be an act of arrogance.

10. do you consider yourself more of an academic, or more of an
artist, or something else?

Above all, I am an artist, or an anti-artist, as I have been all my
life. Aside from writing, I draw, I take photographs (women can send
their nude photos in to my e-mail address found in Unrestrained!), I
even sculpt and create origami in my spare time.  This is all art.
When I pass through the day, I see my daily life and the lives of
others as a work of art, in motion.  I turn my head to one side,
then to another... the painting changes.  I turn the lights down, I
turn them back up, I watch the sunset - these are all sections,
scenes of the great masterpiece.  On the exclusively academic level,
I have a serious interest in philosophy and science, but I think
this is all heavily related to and stemming from my love of art.

11. if you had to be a suicide bomber, where would you detonate?

This is an extraordinarily difficult question.  The things I would
want to destroy in this world are nearly without limit.  If I had
the possibility, I would start with God.  To me the belief in God,
in specific, the Jewish God, Jehova, worshipped by millions of dogs
on this Earth, is the ultimate absurdity, the most disgusting, foul,
abhorrent thought one can possibly possess.  If I can possibly get
to the core of this belief and destroy it I would be glad, and I
think others would be too given time.  However, I realize this plan
cannot go into realization due to the fact that personifying a
belief physically to destroy it is impossible.  I'd have to take a
less figurative course of action then.  What I'd do is set myself
off in the White House, in the toilet of George W. Bush, preferably
with him, Candoleeza Rice, John Ashcroft and what's-his-name all
seated next to me. Maybe I can catch them all fucking each other in
a chain, and I can rush in and detonate at the moment of climax.
But the possibilities are truly endless...

12. what is your favorite food as a solid meal (e.g. junk food is a
later question!) ?

Japanese and Indian food, for the greatest balance of delicacy,
spice and overall flavor.  Eastern and Middle-Eastern cuisine is
generally great, in my opinion.

13. do you feel that excessive socialization - or socialization at
all - causes a dilution of focus and foments an inability to think
clearly about topics outside of social situations?

Absolutely.  I think anything excessive can have a detrimental
effect on one's life.  Some socialization doesn't hurt, however.  I
think it is quite positive, actually, because if you do not
socialize at all, you fall into another excess: an excess of
isolation.  Both can breed fanaticism, which is what I feel every
sensible person must avoid.  If one cannot avoid becoming a fanatic,
then at least let me appreciate your fanaticism from a distance so I
can have a good laugh or be inspired.

14. what is your sexual preference, and your ideal type of
relationship? do you seek a mate, a short term encounter, or
something pragmatic (a breeder/harem)?

My sexual preference, due to social-engineering and/or biological
heritage - I have no answer - is heterosexual.  I prefer women, and
I feel that without the opposite sex life today would be even harder
to manage properly than it already is. I have no answer for my ideal
type of relationship.  Am I seeking a mate?  I always am, in a
sense.

15. do you use any drugs and if so, why?

I don't use any drugs.  Drugs, and I am speaking of the ones that
are considered 'controversial' in society now and aren't naturally
produced in the brain, can be a source of great benefit for some
people (more politicians should 'toke up' in my view), but I was
never taken in by any of the nonsense that drugs lead to any
positive form of 'enlightenment'. Enlightenment comes from within,
and it is not necessary, I feel, to find enlightenment strictly
through drugs.  Certain drugs may expedite the process,
artificially, but there are other paths, the majority of which are
far safer, and far more profound.  Don't be taken in by the hype of
your bohemian friends.  Several close friends of mine have suffered
tremendously from drug use, and still suffer to this day.  I look
upon them in their state, and I think, 'was all of your fun worth
it?  Do you really believe that you wouldn't have made it to this
point B, without first passing through your point A'?  People are
dumb, not only because they don't look to the future, and one should
always have some prudence in regard to the adverse affects of one's
actions; people are dumb because they _believe_ in things rather
than question.  Does all of this suggest I am opposed to all drugs?
Of course not.  Drugs save lives, kill the pain of many, delude
people into believing they've made discoveries on their account,
facilitate laziness, etc.  They have many beneficial uses for those
in need.  I just feel that education and caution is crucial if one
desires to get tied up in them, and one does not desire to worsen
one's quality of life needlessly.

16. is society in decline or is it progressing?

Heavy question.  Who am I to know, really?  I think this is
something society should conclude, perhaps through a vote or
tabulation of some sort. Everyone has an answer, and everyone thinks
he's right.  From my vantage point, I can only answer the question
if I properly understand what is meant by 'progress' and 'decline'.
What is progress?  What is decline in this context?
Technologically, there does seem to be a kind of progress.
Ethically, morally, there is certainly change as well.  People
'know' more than they did in the past.  They are fed more
information.  The real question here is: 'where is this progress
leading?'  Obviously things shift over time in rhythm.  Whether
these 'things' are shifting in the very same spot... I don't know.
I think that on some level, a priori, humans are exactly the same as
they were, or as I imagine they were, 10,000 years ago; the same
murderous, cannibalistic instincts are there, only hidden or
'sublimated'.

17. what is your diagnosis of the health of the metal scene?

The metal scene has been going through some interesting changes in
the past few years.  I don't like the digital, flat sound of many
releases now.  It seems also more and more bands are reluctant to
take big chances, and the ones that do, often end up sounding like
shit.  There is this trend now of mixing electronica and industrial
music with metal.  Now while I am perfectly open to such
experimentation - in fact, experimental and ambient music is my
second love next to metal - the results of many of these bands are
too often sadly far from inspirational.  I think these experiments
are necessary on some level, but I think also there are ways of
being innovative other than cross-pollinating genres.  It seems to
speak of a disillusionment with the present colors, so to speak,
when only a small, infinitely small subsection of colors have
actually been seen and detected.  Underground metal, to wit, black
metal, death metal, doom metal and more, are all excellent forms
that I feel are expandable and alterable in nearly infinite ways.
We haven't hit a brick wall.  What we have hit is a wall of lack of
creativity.   But, despite all this, I think the scene is in good
shape, and there are a lot of excellent releases out there, if one
searches deep enough and has enough incentive.

18. do you have any philosophical views and if so, what are they?

I have many views, all tentative and in a state of perpetual
transition, besides what I've already said.  Too much to crush down
into one paragraph and still retain my immeasurable coolness...

19. what phobias do you have?

My worst phobia is answering such questions!  But seriously, I have
a phobia of heights, for one.  When I am on a precipice looking
down, it's almost as though I don't trust myself.  Something is
telling me to fall down.  It is like what Dosteyevsky wrote in his
'Notes From the Underground', if I'm not mistaken.  There is a kind
of 'force'; I like to call it insecurity.  My other phobia is my
fear of being locked in an infinite loop statement without the
possibility of breaking the program.  I think the programmers out
there will understand this latter fear.

20. society has advanced in its development of plastics and digital
technology. what do you think are the effects of these on individual
thought?

It is very hard to say, since everyone is affected differently.
Generally, I think too much technology that promotes comfort and
diversion serves to retard mental progress.  Technology should
remove needless, repetitive actions, things that generally hamper
thought, not proliferate them.  But when the course of technological
progress is guided by capitalists this is to be expected.

21. are you an individualist or a collectivist?

I really don't know. Perhaps both, neither, or one of the two, in
varying degrees.  I suppose you're referring, by mention of
collectivism, to my political belief in a centralized government?
This topic is far too involved to fit all my thought into one
convenient paragraph.

22. do you think men and women are becoming more similar through
social conditioning?

In America, most men and women are interchangeable.  Woman seems to
have lost most of her femininity, her 'womanliness' here.  She walks
and talks like man, bent on appearing 'macho' and almost
offensively, brashly self-assertive.  Possibly this is a defense
mechanism on her part living in a society of wolves like the United
States, and I don't mean wolves in the Luciferian sense.  Men here
are morons, and the idiotic pretentious show of masculinity in the
States and, I imagine, everywhere else in the world is something
that I biologically detest.  But moving away from the States
specifically, a woman should be strong, I think, and most women
_are_ strong, far stronger than men emotionally than we are often
led to think.  I believe men and women are different, and behave in
different ways, reacting and resolving various situations
differently.  I don't believe in a simplistic gender equality.

23. what is the origin of humanist values, and what is your
assessment of these values?

Humanism is the concern for the interest and values of human beings,
a system of thought that focuses on humans.  I can appreciate and
respect this concern to a degree.  I think when humanism becomes
extreme and we lose interest in nature and the vast universe outside
of our little peapod humanism tends to become 'dangerous', i.e. non-
discriminatingly anti-human. Could that be a contradiction?

24. where do you hope to be, and what do you hope to be doing, at
age 45?

I hope to be in good health, in control of most of my mental
impulses, unfettered by any pressing or trivial concerns, and with
as much passion for life and dreams as I possess now.  I would also
hope to still be in company of the great friends I have now.

25. relativist or objectivist?

Relativistically objectivist.

26. what metal have you been hearing lately?

In the past few months: Graven, Xasthur, Woods of Ypres, Shroud of
Despondency, Blut Aus Nord, Seer Bliss, Akerbeltz, Argar, Funeral,
Skepticism, Evoken, Mourning Beloveth, Deinonychus, Funebrarum,
Inimical, Lunar Gate, Shade Empire, Forefather, Dornenreich,
Perished, Darkthrone, Abyssic Hate, the list goes on... I've spent a
lot of time this year investigating all of the old Solistitium and
Millenium Metal releases I've missed and that's been quite
rewarding...

27. does it impress you as much as the first releases of the
norwegian modern black metal movement?

This depends.  There were some excellent black metal releases this
year.  My personal favorite has to be Wigrid... I think this band
captures the early Burzum atmosphere and even advances it on some
level.  I know many people would disagree with me, probably due to
the fact that I've heard Burzum relatively late in comparison to
others.  But it doesn't matter.  Another great black metal band that
I like, which is full of personality in my opinion, is Akerbeltz,
from Spain, and also Graven is an excellent recent discovery.  I
trust with the new Hexenwind double-CD coming out soon on Prophecy,
and the anticipated Amestigon/Hellbound split, I'll be able soon to
properly answer your question.

28. do you believe that the production of new events and objects is
connected causally to what came before, or that all things are "sui
generis," e.g. unique in and of themselves and not necessarily
serving "roles" in a process which creates other things?

Both the former and the latter.  This is dependent to the extent to
which I believe in 'teleological' modes of interpretation, I guess,
and I find that form of argument outdated.  Nonetheless, it's
conceivable to me, dependent on how things are understood, the
protocol of comprehension, so to speak, that everything surely has
its causal root in an antecedent action.  Modern physics and chaos
theory, if I'm not mistaken, disproves this, but on the macro level
causality is certainly very valid.

29. do you fear death?

"Death is not an event in life." - Ludwig Wittgenstein.  It's weak
to rely on quotes from other people, but I think this makes a lot of
sense.

30. does society fear death?

I think so.  I think society fears what it cannot understand; thus,
it fears death, and almost maniacally so.  The mania for the
constant renewal of new products, of new accessories and such, of
new gadgets, to decorate the human psyche and integrate into the
virtual playground of life, is, to me, like a ritual to purge the
spirits of death.  Modern man cowers behind a wall of technology and
'duty' to hide from his own shadow.  Why is there is such speed now,
why does everything necessarily have to go so fast?  Why must we
constantly look at our watches and set the clock for everything we
do?  The majority of humanity is running from something... from
what? Meaninglessness?  There is no meaning in anything we do, in
any actions that take place.  It is our responsibility to imbue
actions with meaning, and unfortunately the form this often takes
for people is a desperate neurosis, objectified in shiny objects and
toys that do nothing but cultivate more need, more discomfort... an
endless, vicious circle...

31. do metal bands/heads fear death more or less than your average
citizen?

I think metalheads are generally more interested in the unknown, are
more drawn to strange and unexplained things, than most ordinary
people.  I don't know whether this means they fear it more.  Perhaps
they do.  It's inevitable that the more one thinks of something, the
more one becomes aware of it and its full circumstance...

32. is democracy a good idea, in your opinion? what kind of
democracy?

Democracy is a better idea than fascism, yet all democracy is bound
to terminate in fascism, as Plato rightly argued, and as is being
slowly demonstrated now in the United States.  That I feel democracy
is better than fascism is due to the fact that under fascism,
personal freedom is inevitably curtailed, and this is one of the
things I value most in my life.

Under democracy, or a quasi-democracy like the United States, you
and I are able to communicate our points of view without fear of our
lives being taken.  We can change our minds.  Under a fascist
government, this would be impossible, since everything would be
under close scrutiny from some sort of 'central tower,' under
arbitrary rule.  All fascism terminates in this, and will inevitably
terminate in this, as long as human beings are the ones in control
of government.  Is democracy, then, the best organization for
humanity?  I don't know.  Perhaps, arguing contrary to what I've
said, fascism can yield some kind of 'beneficial' outcome for
humanity in the sense that a large assemblage of people would have
to band together and actually communicate in the face of a unified
adversary.  To this degree, fascism might benefit a place like the
United States, where everyone is so hopelessly dipped into his or
her micro-world.  It would awaken the dead. But at what price?  Is
it a necessary sacrifice?  Above all, beyond democracy, beyond
fascism, the root of everything in society is education, in my
opinion, and culture/the environment in which one lives.  The
improvement, then, of these latter conditions should be our aim, if
it is 'improvement' that we seek, which by your use of the word
'good' suggests to me this is what you mean...

33. what's with this iraq/al-qaeda mess... are we on the brink of
total world war?

Since the US has literally created both the Al-Qaeda and Iraqi mess
single-handedly, it should be the responsibility, ideally, of the
United States to resolve the problem.  Unfortunately, the United
States is a rogue government with no sense of responsibility
whatsoever, so it is difficult to believe that the United States
military can ever sufficiently 'resolve' any problem it had
originally created.  It was no one's decision except the United
States', to attack Afghanistan in 2001, a war which has brought
virtually nothing but death and tears on the part of the radical
Left, nor will it be anyone else's decision except for the United
States, when it will attack Iraq early next year.  These wars do
have a beneficial function in that they will surely have an affect
on the regions on a purely economic or 'agricultural' level, but,
again, at what price?  In the past 30 years, I have read that the
United States has been involved in nearly 50 wars... 50 wars.  To
me, it's amazing.  The wars of capitalists are amazing because they
are so perfectly senseless.  Only 60 years ago, we were in the midst
of World War II.  What makes any reasonable person believe that the
human race has learned anything in that span of time?  In my view,
World War III had already started, when George W. Bush was elected,
first of all, and on September 11th, second.  Extreme right-wingers
would have the world believe the only way to 'right' the world is by
blowing it up, and then rebuilding the remnants (under the wing of
Jesus of course), with a chain of McDonald's restaurants over the
charred remains.  I don't believe in this.  There is more to life
than consumption and greed, and this is why I am totally opposed to
the plastic monetary ethics of the United States and its equally
plastic, monetary wars.

34. what's your opinion, comparatively, of islam, judaism and
christianity?

It should be clear from everything I've said to this point.  All
religions essentially are dogmatic, and I, as a skeptical,
disbelieving individual, also an anti-authoritarian, am opposed to
any form of dogmatism.  But, you see, I don't make a religion out of
my philosophical views.  Religion has its function in imbuing
meaning into the lives of the lowest common denominators of society.
Humans believe, humans have always believed.  It's a primitive
instinct in many that has had its role in facilitating the dreams of
tyrants, and will remain to have such a role in the future.  The
Russian Revolution of 1917 meant to erase that instinct, but what
has it done?  It created a different religion.  Its name: Socialism.
But to return to your question, amidst Islam, Judaism and
Christianity, the three most popular monotheistic cults ever to be
vomited forth from the sickened mind of man, Christianity is to me
the most petty and vulgar of them all, but I believe this is only
because it is the most prevalent religion of the West. Judaism, as
it's practiced today, is not nearly as vengeful as Christianity.

This does not mean I have more respect for it.  Islam differs
somewhat in structure from the other two, but has bred just as many
slobbering fanatics.

Fundamentally, it's the belief in God and superstitious events, an
'other world', that is at the heart of all three cults, and for that
reason these are the things we have to root out of people if it's
our (arguably naïve) aim to change them.

35. for what beliefs would you kill?

It would be foolish to kill for any beliefs in this society.  I have
never been pressed to such an extreme where my beliefs take
precedence over my life.  In such a way, perhaps I am an
'unprincipled' person.  I have friends that I very much love, that I
would take incredible lengths not to see come to harm... but... what
is it all about?  Who am I really 'protecting'?  It's a very tricky
question.

36. do you believe in personal immortality?

All events in space are 'immortal' in some sense since time is not
an 'absolute' construct that flows in a perfectly linear fashion.
Depending on the one doing the observation, I exist, I do not exist
- yet there is no strict simultaneity between these events.  We
can't look back, but, from what I've read, this is only due to the
entropy of the universe.

37. what were the contributions that black metal made which death
metal could not?

Immeasurable contributions...  Black metal introduced, in my
opinion, a whole new language of sound.  It bent the rules of death
metal, taking the most vitriolic elements and refining them into
purest poison.  The maximum extent to this refinement is yet to
occur, and I think will never occur.

38. please note any demographic or attitudinal changes you have
observed in the black metal community over the past four years?

I don't really care for the 'black metal community', so it is hard
to say. If this 'community' includes the bands themselves, which I
suppose is what you imply, then I think many artists have lost
contact with the 'original aims' of black metal, which, to me, is a
movement of absolute isolation and inversion of religion dogma, the
'pure' channeling of the unconscious. Also, the whole nature-
mystique component of black metal is something that means a lot to
me, and is also something that, sadly, most artists have turned
their backs on.  It's become more difficult to find bands that still
understand the beauty of isolation.  But they exist.

39. is america fundamentally a liberal place, or is it conservative?

This sounds like a trick question on a pop quiz.  Liberals will tell
you one thing, conservatives will tell you something else, and both
extremes are very active in America.  In the middle of these
bookends, we have the vast majority, who are either completely
uninterested in politics, who I envy to some degree, and those
others who claim to be 'moderate'; the fucking normies, the middle-
classers who are content with the 9-to-5 utopia in which they live,
the ones who are so militant about supporting the Democratic and
Republican parties and no one else.  They take no action in their
lives because they feel matters are beyond their power, or
attention, and in a way, as with the others, I can only envy their
stupidity.  They are happy with their chains, imagining, in their
small minds, that what they experience every day is freedom.  This,
at least, tenuously describes the public.

In respect to the forces that are actually in power in this country
(by name), the corporations, the banks, the military, these 'rulers'
are both conservative, in the sense that they support Traditionalist
values, and they are liberal, in their equal-opportunity-ethic
(which is a sham), and renunciation of those same Traditionalist
values in favor of monetary gain. Monetary gain, however, is in
itself become a Traditionalist value in America, preached from the
pulpits of deranged religious leaders as something 'God-given.'
Take a look at the money you carry in your pocket: it says 'In God
We Trust'.  What does this mean to me?  It means America is
conservative on the level of its acceptance of religious dogma.  But
it is both liberal at the same time in a multitude of other issues.
We have to really define here what we mean by "liberal" and
"conservative" to answer this question, because elements of both
"schools" are found everywhere here.

Fundamentally speaking, America is a place where the dollar rules
above all... you can pigeonhole this into whatever political faction
you wish, call it by any name, but to me it can be summarized by one
word: S-I-C-K. Really fucking sick.

40. how would you define conservative?

Now I get to define "conservative"... a conservative is a person who
thinks he knows more about the world than I do...  But it's much
more than that. To me, a conservative is a person who _believes_ in
Traditionalist values. I am totally opposed to this.  There are
certain threads in nature that a person can assimilate without the
need of factional guidance.  Science, for example, which is led, as
any other 'vocation', by value-judgments, has never bent in the
direction of conservatism or liberalism.  I am speaking of 'pure
science': mathematics, physics.  A society is conceivable to me that
is neither held together by a _belief_ in liberal values nor
conservative values, but rather scientific, progressive values, on
the a priori supposition that all life is meaningless, and it is our
unique function to imbed life with meaning.  Writing this, I begin
to see that conservatism and liberalism is almost inevitable in any
structure of society, but, again, the operative word is 'almost'.
Let me just summarize it as this: a conservative is a person who has
an inveterate fear of progress and change, and who has difficulty
casting off the chains of inculcated, comfortable associations.

41. do you believe the "soul" exists outside of the "brain"?

It's right that you put both words in "quotes", as I believe,
literally, that there is only one medium to account for the two.  My
question is... how does this 'medium' account in its turn for
conscious awareness?  It's something that has interested me for a
few years now.  And really, I have no idea.  How could I?  I think
taking the materialist, functionalist route in solving this question
is shortsighted and conservative.  The individual ego with all its
physical associations dies with the brain upon death,
unquestionably, but the primitive consciousness may remain, in a
different, less 'localized,' or coherent, shape or form.  I try to
think back to the time before I was born and unfortunately all I get
is a whole lot of nothingness...

42. what's your opinion on the recent violence and cannibalism by
the LRA in Uganda?

I have no opinion since I'm uninformed about it.  I think it depends
on who was being cannibalised, and by whom... cannibalism is
something we in the West should all be accustomed to.

43. if you could build any kind of house, what would it be like?
would you say it would represent a sequestered withdrawl from
reality, or an invitation to the external world to reach you in your
home?

What I like about my place in Philadelphia here is that I have equal
access both to the urban realm (the city of Philadelphia, which is a
beautiful city compared to many) and to the rural expanses (the
Appallachian Mountains, Amish Country, the entire scope of
Pennsylvania west of Philadelphia).  If I could build any kind of
house, the location would be most important.  I'd like it to be near
to a cemetery, far away from any major roads, and I'd like a lot of
open, natural space to be available.  I'd like to be able to walk
outside in the night and be greeted by the forest.  A place I've
been in New York, Coopertown, reflects this ideal to some degree.
Coopertown was one of the most beautiful and desolate places I've
ever visited.  The only problem is that it was so far away from any
'active' places.  But the construction of the house itself doesn't
matter too much to me, as long as the bare necessities are there,
and there is a lot of fresh air.  That's crucial!

44. if you were the one who had shot john lennon, upon what would
you blame your actions?

Loss of sanity, I would think... as I have no idea why I would do
such a thing.  I must have been walking the streets in my sleep with
a loaded gun again!  'It's not my fault, you fucking bastard...
er... officer!' ;-)

45. name one metal band that never compromised its vision and yet
was effective on a broad scale in communicating its ideals?

I would say Skepticism, but I don't think they fit the secondary
condition. Maybe Death... that band meant a lot to me years ago, and
I felt Chuck Schuldiner never compromised his vision for anyone.

I'd like to thank you, SPR, for giving me the space for this
interview.  I'd just like to say, in closing, to all the people
living in America reading this, that most of America's economic
growth is established upon its consumerism.  In order to weaken
America, we have to spend less.  This especially means re-evaluating
our false and true needs in the Marcusian sense.  Think about it...
do you really need some kind of new mass-marketed gadget in your
life to properly feel 'good'?  Do you really need that new toaster
oven, that new cell phone with built-in Pong, that new computer that
essentially does the exact same thing you use your present computer
to do? Consider this: we have to spend less, this way cutting down
on the totally repugnant jobs that are spread all over this nation.
Outside of voting, this is one of the primary means of actually
producing change.  America is the heart of the enemy.  In order to
rip out this diseased, atrophied heart, or - better yet - change it,
we have to infiltrate from the inside like a cancer, eating away at
the core until only the most vital organs remain.  If anyone is open
to such duty, it is us, uniquely.  Thanks to everyone for reading.

PS: Everything I've said up to this point is false.

"until philosophers are kings, or the kings and princes of this
world have the spirit and power of philosophy, and political
greatness and wisdom meet in one, and those commoner natures who
pursue either to the exclusion of the other are compelled to stand
aside, cities will never have rest from their evils, not the human
race as I believe, and then only will this our State have a
possibility of life and behold the light of day..." - plato

Yury Arkadin
www.unrestrainedmag.com

-~-

Ymir G. Winter
of GROM

	
1. what is the essence of national socialism?

The essence of National Socialism is the dedication to Race and
Nation, and the willingness to ultimately die for it. Aryan ideals
and virtues; steadfast honour and chivalry; decent living!

2. what attracted you to black metal to the point of wanting to play 
it?

It was in my early childhood that I discovered the greatness of
metal. My first exposures were to bands like the great Iron Maiden
(the best metal band ever), Judas Priest,  Black Sabbath and so on.
Their sounds and lyrics opened new doors in my psyche, allowing me
to delve within my young spirit as well as to contemplate my
surroundings. Also, it was just fun and "cool". As time passed,
bands grew more extreme, and started to tackle new and  more
controversial subject matters. I went from the NWOBHM bands to acts
like Slayer, Kreator and so on. It was all good, until I picked up a
few tapes that would change my life..........they were Bathory's
"The Return" ,  Mercyful Fate's "Melissa" and "Don't break the
oath". These recordings contained something that other bands lacked.
While Slayer and kreator were great at up-front aggression, there
were no hidden doors.....my psyche was unimpressed. While I threw on
Fate though, doors were seriously opened......they were the pathways
to the occult and magic. The music was cold and evil, yet symphonic
and mystical. Same with bathory....although much more barbaric than
Fate, it did have a certain mystical, almost ancient feel to it. I
would listen to Fate on a cold winter's night, and it would almost
serve as a perfect sound-track to the gloomy cold; I would throw on
Bathory on a windy Fall eve, and it would almost translate the
natural surroundings to sound. That was part of that dimension I
speak of.....the connection to the nature realms. From then on, I
searched for other similar bands, not finding too many. When we got
to 90/91, I found some more similar bands. That was the birth of the
great Norwegian BM scene. People love to rip the bands now, and its
true most of them sold out or are comical now, but in their time,
they were great. Immortal's "Pure Holocaust" and Mayhem's "De
Mysteriies Dom Satanas" gave me the mystical feelings as well. So it
was my respect and awe of Black Metal that made me seek it out as a
follower, but also it made me want to join the legions with my own
band.

I did not want to just jump in however. So in the late 80's, early
90's, I was involved  mainly in death metal bands in the vein of
Immolation. In 1996/97 I started a Black Metal band called
IMBOLC....the music was similar to DarkThrone, but it was Pagan and
White Power oriented in lyrics. Then in 98 came GROM, the pagan war
machine.

3. what authors or artists were most influential in your childhood?

Iron Maiden made me purchase my first axe and made me want to play
metal.....they are THE gods; Sabbath gave me the desire to create
thick, riff and kick ass grooves, again, godlike!  but Fate and
Bathory got me hooked on Black Metal. Those were the main music
artists that I can look back on and see a great influence on me. I
was also very artistic from a young age, loving ink and pencil art,
as well as acrylic works. The great artist Frank Frazetta was a huge
influence on me. Again, he was an artists whose work represented
more than that which was on his canvas. He is known for the early
Conan book cover paintings, as well as for the first Vampirella
covers.  He also did covers for other comics and books such as Enemy
Ace as well. Perhaps his greatest accomplishments were the famous
"Death Dealer" paintings......a grim reaper type figure, aloft a
black steed, depicted in grim battle or in cold, shadowed poses. The
great thing about Frazetta was that he was one of the first artists
since the school of Rembrandt to work with shadows and darkness. He
also was one of the first artists to use unconventional shading and
tone colours........he'd use greens and blues on caucasian skin for
example, and it looked great. It was HIS perception of the act he
painted. You look at his paintings and the doors open. Pure genius.

As far as authors go, John Milton impressed me the most as a
youngster, and continues to now.
He defied English social structure as well as parliamentary and even
worse, PIOUS law and standards with his anti-divorce essay, "the
Doctrine and Discipline of Divorce." He also created the most epic
writing ever in, "Paradise Lost". Again, a writing like that in
Puritanical times was risky, as well as it was ingenious. He weaved
a landscape never seen before, and since then, never rivaled. The
usurpation of heaven!!! It was great! All in epic prose. I'd love to
see this in a film one day! And again, not to beat a dead horse, but
the doors to other realms were present in his works. Whether you
drifted off into the world of his mythos, or into the possibilities
of the proposed scenario, Milton's work was layered in genius.

4. from where do you believe your values system originates?

That would have to be through my paternal roots. My father, and both
my grandfathers were all hard laborers, good family providers,
fascists, and stout anti-semites. As a child, I would spend hours
loooking at the WWII pics of my grandfathers.......one fighting for
the US, the other for Germany.

It gave me a sense of honour, that beyond the war itself, the
uniforms represented the Aryan warspirit that has lived in the souls
of all Whites from antiquity. They were warriors, and lived their
lives that way as well......with honour, chivalry, and a
preservation of Aryan ideals. While my father did not fight in any
"war", he was part of the fascist military uprising in Hellas during
the late 60's, known as the military junta. He was a seaman for
years after that. He raised my brother and I with an iron hand, but
gave us the Aryan upbringing we needed..........that meant exposing
us to the glory of Hitler and other great men, at a young age. He
also taught us the ways of the jew. Ofcourse, he knew we would grow
to hate them, as any decent White should, but he wanted us to be
able to read the "fine print". The zionist machine is complex, and
must be understood to be fought properly. At Easter time, my father
would even colour the eggs red, white and black. Now you may laugh,
but it was true. I thank Wotan for this upbringing.

If my brother or I had a fight, victory was the only option. If we
returned home in tears, my father would oust us until we returned
victoriously. He encouraged harshness to those deserving it, but
kindness and respect to the good. He was a christian man however who
could not look beyond the birth of christ as far as his roots were
concerned. Besides that, he laid the foundation for me, that I
wouldn't stray. The same went for my grandfathers, who were great
men. Successful, yet retained their views and hate for jews.

5. when did you become politically active? was this the result of 
contemplation, or of physical events in your life?

I became politically active in my early teen years, and it was due
to a three-fold of events.
My first taste of activism was animal rights. I was always very fond
of animals, both as the cuddly creatures we kept as pets, as well as
the mighty totem spirits depicted on Aryan shields, armour and art.
When I found out about vivisection, it completely horrified me, and
it struck me as a very jewish industry. The use of life for
degenerate tests that are useless, reeked of  jewish murder and
spirit. I was really turned on to the whole animal lib movement at
the old NYHC benefit shows. Activists would have booths set up, with
literature exposing the vivisection industry as well as the horrible
factory meat industry. The torture these poor animals went through
was horrific, and unacceptable. Thus, I signed petitions, gave money
to orgs, and marched as well. It felt good to be able to counter
attack the foe. Of course there were others who took things to a
"terrorist" level, which I repsected but abstained from.

Then one day, when I must have been around 16 or 17, I was in the
manhattan library of all places. I was doing a report on the nuclear
arms race, when I got bored and started looking at Nazi war books. I
opened a copy of a Waffen SS book, and out fell this little bright
neon orange sticker, that read: "Earths Most Endangered Species: The
White Race". I was blown away, and kept that sticker to make copies,
which I passed around. I called the hotline number and found out
about the National Alliance. Then around the same time, the KKK had
a chapter set up near us. During this time, our neighborhoods were
peppered with GREAT fliers, stickers and other infos about Jews. It
was great, and from then on, I knew that there were others out there
like me; who echoed the words of my father; that organized!!!! It
gave me a sense of power, that I too could be, and should be active.
Thus it all began. I took my beliefs, and sought out others, to join
with and to convert.

6. most of your political views are demonized in this time. is this 
because the "powers that be" really believe what you suggest is
evil,
or that what you propose competes with their best interests?

Everything that is wrong with America to day is due to the Jew. The
Jew is a species not unlike a virus. They are not like us, not even
like muds. They are their own type of hideous beast that thrives on
destruction and degeneracy. There is a reason they were ousted from
almost every land they inhabited. The problem is that they
eventually gained power and the means to destroy.

The jew first attacked Europa by introducing bio-warfare to the
world. They'd launch ships from North Africa towards Europa, with no
crew on board, but they were filled with rotted, infectious soil,
and diseased rats. The poor Europeans, trapped in the superstitions
of Christianity would suspect that these ships were haunted. This
gave birth to the old vampire tales. A crewless ship would appear in
port; they'd dock it to investigate, and boom....2 weeks later, half
the village was dead.

Thus the Jew brought the bubonic plague unto Europe to decimate the
populace. We can go even earlier to the Crusades. With the advent of
Christianity, the Jew eventually got his two most hated peoples to
fight each other, that being Europeans and Arabs. When all the good
White men were away Crusading (be they knight or serf), the Jew
would move in, buying up lands, etc. It wasn't enough though, and
that is why the Black Death was wrought. Just to seal the deal, the
Jew then started the "witch" hysterias.......3 million Aryan women
and children were burned, drowned and tortured to death for being
"heathen". In actuality, it was a move to further the growing Jewish
medical and pharmaceutical industries. The women were the healers,
and all they needed was available in the woods for FREE. They did
not need a jew alchemist's potions. Well, after 3 million women were
killed, much of the ties to the past were severed. Then people HAD
to turn to the jew for his elixirs, which temporarily cured, but
created far worse ailments that festered within. It also put the jew
in control of Aryan birth rate.

I started with this rant, because it is TRUTH. And truth is what the
Jew fears most. There is NO evidence of a "holocaust" other than
stories told by old jews! But there are sanctions on people who
investigate the TRUTH! Because their powers are based on deceit!

Thus our opinions are demonized because it's a Jew society. First of
all, it's a crime to be White. Aryans are taught from a young age to
be ashamed.......ashamed of being White. Slavery (which was by and
large a jewish trade) is constantly thrown in our faces, as is the
holocaust. To be White is to be "evil". The Jew has re-written the
history books from which our kids are taught.

America suffers from the typical ailments of a Jew infiltrated
society.......drugs are  rampant; homosexuality has become
mainstream and acceptable; race mixing is accepted and forced down
our throats; basically, degeneracy rules. I dare anyone to merely
watch tv for a few hours. You'll see two fags kissing; a White girl
sucking up to her nigger man; drugs and murder depicted as fun.
Great Empires collapsed thanks to the jew, from ancient Rome, to the
English Empire to the USA. I think we still have some time left to
challenge the jew and win back our nation, but time is running out.

We are demonized because we offer the truth to a brainwashed and
downtrodden race. Racist is not a "bad" word. It is one who is true
to their race. You can be anything in this country.....a nigger
murderer, a pedophile rabbi........youre ok. Be White, and you're in
for trouble. The only Whites that have it "ok" are the ones who have
sold their soul to the Jew and his dollar. The only evil in the
equation you proposed is the Jew. We challenge them, thus they
demonize us. We're called hatemongers.....boneheads who hate, just
to hate! Hahaha. And look what the jew does to our heroes.....(pay
attention, and you'll see the repeated accusations)......the jew
says Hitler was gay; a pedophile; had one testicle!!!! Alexander the
Great.....was a homo! They are out to demean and destroy or race and
culture. We stand for something these vermin could never be, that's
why they hate us, and our culture. They have done remarkably well,
but the truth will expose their horns and tail. Don't believe the 6
million LIE!

7. do you believe that the majority of black metal bands understand 
what you are trying to say?

I think the majority of Black Metal bands serve world Jewry. 75% of
BM bands today STILL scream for satan and rally around degeneracy.
Now theres two things to this. The first is that this is the EXACT
content the Jew wishes to see in his music empire. White bands
betraying their blood and soil by acting Jewish, and even better,
White kids buying the BM, and becoming enthralled by the Jewish
content in the music and lyrics. They listen to songs that call for
the murder of their own kind. I do not view the anti-xian stance of
many BM as merely anti-christ. I see it further as the first step in
getting White youth away from their "roots". First, the kid rebels
against xianity; parents; his/her family..........they then turn to
satanism, to rebel further. Satanism is a Jewish invention and cult.
Xianity is the first, and satanism is the security net the jew has
set up. So if and when the Aryan falls out of xianity, they will be
caught by another jew trap. It then becomes a cycle. What morals and
spirits can be found in a BM cd that hails satan and degeneracy???
The second part is that most Whites don't "get it" and don't care.
They are more comfortable being "evil" because its easy. Its very
catholic actually. Catholics do as they want, because at the end of
the week all is forgiven at confession. Well, the evil BMer does
what he wants because its easier to cheat and lie than it is to be
virtuous. So I don't think most bands understand us, nor do they
give a fuck. That's fine, because on the Day of the Rope, they'll
swing along with the jews that they served. I'd like to think that
the typical BM attitude would die out by the age of 17 or 18, but
sadly, there are 30 year olds acting that foolish and immature. Its
easy living a life of not giving a fuck though, I guess.

8. what do you think is the importance of f.w. nietzsche being an 
influence on metal since its origins?

The masses that claim influence or that pay homage to Nietzsche are
great; I do not however recognize any band truly grasping the
Nietzschean concept, or the nihilist approach that he mentored. His
brand of nihilism to me, was philosophically rooted. (though he
himself disclaimed philosophical ideology ex: "How I understand the
philosopher -- as a terrible explosive, endangering everything") His
thought process to me was reminiscent of Descartes, " think
therefore I am", nothing more nothing less.......no magic spirit in
the sky.

To be honest I think many bands have used Nietzsche's concepts as
intellectual crutches, to defy those who would properly brand them
as sheep following the flock of  the "hateful" or "pessimistic"
music scene. They latch on to the darker side of Nietzsche and
disregard words such as "I beseech you, my brothers, remain faithful
to the earth".  Nietzsche offered the deconstruction of religious
piety, specifically christianity, as well as the triumph of will
over "love". The bands seem to latch onto those concepts, yet
disregard the alternative that Nietzsche offered.

That is a violation of balance. With darkness must come light. I do
not approve with most Neitzsche's thoughts, but I think that his
impact on the metal world was great, just misunderstood.

9. nietzsche saw ideology as a conflict between materialism 
(considering reality real) and absolute idealism, where abstract 
concepts are considered represented by finite, real-world symbols.
on
which side of that do you see yourself?

I have to be totally honest here....when I read Nietzsche, it is
like I am reading the ramblings of an extreme pessimist, who quite
possibly was mentally ill; OR he is more of a "Marcus Aurelius" type
character, with deeper INTENT  and malice behind his words, Everyone
has an opinion. Some through the annals of history were fortunate
enough to have their ideas put to print in books. To me, Nietsche
was one of them. I am glad to see that he acknowledged the treachery
of the jew, and its invention of christianity, but the fact that he
opposes all piety and philosophy to me, is ludicrous. Faith and
ideology are vital parts of the Aryan virtue. True European/White
blood and soil is rooted in Paganism. That faith served as a bond
between a people and their land. Faith was vital for growth, as it
was vital to the warrior who set sails to conquer.

As a Pagan and National Socialist, I fall into the idealist side. I
see hope, and possibility in the bleakest of situations. I have
faith in the nature of Earthly things. My only enemy is the jew.
Nietzshe enshrouded himself in negativity too much. He did offer his
alternatives, but over-all his teachings are not for me. What did
they spawn? I have yet to met a productive nihilist..........and
that's not to say they cant exist. Im not trying to insult people
here, but that's been my experience. "Nietzscheans" seem to wallow
in their misery, instead of trying to comprehend their feelings and
try for a change of life. The connection to the other world has been
cut. I am a very pious person. Faith is vital to my existance and to
my ebb and flow with my surroundings. It is important for me to
surround myself with comrades that have similar view; and I have
raised my family as such as well. Thus, whenever the Wheel of the
Year turns and we fall unto a holiday, the feast is on, and it's
important. I am also very dogmatic, thus I am to be scorned by
Nietzsche himself!
 
10. when varg vikernes and fenriz first came out with national 
socialist-ish beliefs in black metal, the metal world was horrified. 
now it seems people still have strong opinions, but have accepted
the
presence of fascist bands throughout the metal community. do you 
think society as a whole will do the same thing? (in other terms, do 
sheep simply accept what has happened and deal with it, no matter
how
"evil" or "racist" it is?)

Well, Fenriz was quick to offer gay apologies to the Jews who write
his checks. That shot down his virtue right there. Varg is a
different story. He is an Aryan martyr, and should be regarded as
the "NS founder" as far as our musical scene is concerned. People
were horrified then, and still are today, just secretly. 90% of
metal enthusiasts like the shock value of their image. The same
gaggle of fools who were enamoured with satan and "666!!!" five
years ago are now sporting mjolnirs and claiming to be NS. These
zombies are not wanted by my people.
 
As far as fascist or NS bands being accepted these days, its not
really true. The ones that are,  are media friendly, meaning the jew
ok's their existance. Bands like Grom, Pantheon, Der Sturmer and
others will never be "accepted", because we are honest, and we
practise a "no holds barred" type of art. I am not going to candy-
coat my lyrics and image to sign with a 2 bit mainstream label. For
what? Theres two things at hand, and each is pathetic.........either
the fence-sitting mainstream fascist bands are so weak and cheap
that even though they have NS thoughts, the label deal means more to
them than our survival; OR they are total frauds trying to cash in
on shock value. Fuck them. Its ok to support scum "NS" bands like
Satanic Warmaster and Pest, but not Pantheon.......why? because SW
are apologists who make excuses for being liberal, whereas Pantheon
will set the TRUE record straight.

11. it seems to me there's a witchhunt in the usa at least to find 
"racists" and "expose them," meaning deprive them of economic 
sustenance. why are the powers that be so worried about racism, if 
we're all free to speak our minds?

Again, if the truth be told, the Jew will be dethroned. 2.9% of the
US populace controls 95% of the judiciary, scholastic, legal,
medicinal, pharmaceutical, media and political positions. They
control the books we read, the shows we see, and the air we breathe.
They have re-written history, and have shoved it down our throats.
Their attack is not only against Whites. They have sought out the
genocide of the Arab people; the enslaved the negroes, brought them
here, and used them as a weapon against the White race; they allow
millions of mexicans and other latino muds into the country to take
our jobs and raise the crime levels;........they use the muds
against us, yet wish death upon them too. Go to any black
ghetto...the Jew has set up a liquor store for every other corner.
The jew gave them the crack epidemic as well. So while the Jew
provides welfare funds so that the muds may outbreed us, the jew
ultimately wants them dead as well. The Jew has magnificently set it
up so that all the downtrodden muds point their collective fingers
at the White man. A few "educated" blacks like the 5%'s, Nation of
Islam and Black Israelites realise the jews evil plot. Whenever they
speak out, the jew media crushes them as well.

You have to look at who the jew media targets as enemies of the
states. Of course, White Supremacists/NS folk come first........but
then theres others on the list. The said black organisations;
various Arab/islamic orgs; and so on. You see, its not who hates, or
who is "racist". What counts is WHO HATES THE JEW! And WHO EXPOSES
THE TRUTH.

The Jew is worried that if more people realise their plot, there
will be revolution. One day soon, the American masses will come to
know the truth...the truth of the Zionist take-over, and the truth
of what the Mossad has done here in the US, and to the citizens of
the US. They have murdered us time and time again, and it must stop.

12. do you think there is any scientific support for racism?

Truthfully, I do not concern myself with standard "racism". My war
is against the Jew, and I feel that if the Jew were gone tomorrow,
things would fall into their natural order. I have studied human
evolution and held a negro skull in one hand and a simian skull in
the other.......aside from the fangs, there was no difference to me.
If you are asking me if there is a racial difference between the
Caucasians and non, yes there is, and its well documented. I highly
recommend "RACE" by John Baker to further ones interest in research.
For example, the skulls of Australian Aborigines are dramatically
behind in the evolutionary scale. Does this support hate? Does it
mean we should hate them? I don't think so. It means that we have
nothing to do with them. Whites should NOT mix with them. But a
White should live by Aryan ideals. Fight the good fight, not the one
spurned by a drunken stupor that results in jail time. The enemy I
focus on is the jew. I almost feel that there is no need to kick
sand in the faces of the races we have conquered and out-civilised.
Our glory is in our art and culture. Again, I stress, if we rid the
Earth of jewry, the pieces will fall perfectly.

There would be world peace and Aryan utopia. The idea that one day
we're going to rid the earth of all non Whites is
unrealistic..........getting rid of a few million kikes is more
attainable.

13. some say that racism is misused, and what the nazis were was 
nationalist, meaning that they recognized nations not by imaginary 
lines drawn in the sand, but by the people - tribes, races, genetic 
groups - that lived within them. what do you think of this?

Nationalism is pride and dedication to your nation; you will fight
and die for your nation. Nazi Germany. Lead by Hitlers examples and
teachings, KNEW that the only way they'd rise from the jewish ashes
of the Versailles treaty would be by returning to National
Socialism.

Were the Nazis "racist"? I think the term racist has been twisted to
hold negative connotations. It is also very cut and dry. The Nazis
practised love for race AND nation. Their pride was not exclusive to
Teutonic folk. THOUSANDS of non Germans from lands such as Croatia,
Hellas, Romania, Holland, France, and so on joined the ranks of the
Waffen SS and the Wehrmacht because they knew that the Nazi movement
stood for the protection and preservation of Europa from judaism and
its child, communism. The Jews like to depict Hitler and the Nazis
as brutes who wanted to murder all non blondes, including Germans.
This is utter non-sense. Hitler acknowledged the blood and soil of
Europa and her different tribal roots. Nazi Germany was bathed in
Teutonic Pagan imagery; Hitler had the utmost respect for Hellenic
and Roman civilisation and for other great Aryan artists and heroes.
There was more a sense of "One face, One race".......this is what my
comrades and I advocate today. Race and Nation, not conflicts
created by Jews.

14. many people in america seem to be fanatically anti-racist, going 
to great lengths to distance themselves from this philosophy and 
attempting to disprove it, including those in science, the media and 
government. why do they do this?

They do it out of fear. Plain and simple. American folk,
specifically White are downtrodden.
Whites are not supported by welfare as the muds are; thus, the White
must always be cautious of his/her actions due to the fact that the
bills always need to be paid, the kids need to be fed, the mortgage
is due, etc. The muds have the time to do what they want because
they don't work, and all their assets are taken care of. The jew
does what it wants because it has the power and cash to do so. The
White has to stay the course of the rat race, otherwise his/her
small kingdom will crumble. So its hard to recruit Whites for this
reason.

Also, the Jew totally runs the media and education programs here, so
our kids have been learning from Jewish texts for the past 40 years.
They rewrote history to benefit zionism, and Americans think that
what they learn in school and hear on tv is cardinal truth.

The govt also makes sure that we are saturated with brain
obstacles.......cable tv with 500 channels; sports mania; tv
shows..........and movies! Americas elite! Hahah

You must also understand that the penalty against a White for a
"racial" crime is dreadful.
Just earlier this year at Ol' Miss University, there was a bounty
out for the heads of students who were spray painting swastikas and
anti jew and black epithets. The school stated that the guilty would
be expelled and fined; the STATE said that hate crime laws would
come into affect and jail time would be served. The hunt was on for
Whites, until 4 BLACKS were caught.

There was NO expulsion, only suspension; there was NO fine; there
were NO state repercussions!!!! It was deemed that "minorities"
could not be "racists". It was passed off as a school "prank". I
rest my case. (I must add though, that awakened blacks such as the
Nation of Islam, the 5% movement and the tabernacle Israelites also
are victimized by the zionist regime)

15. if racism is as "obviously" wrong as g.w. bush suggests it is, 
why do we have to be reminded?

Theres a difference between "racialism" and "racism". I'd say that
most lean towards the first, including myself. In "racialism", the
emphasis is on racial pride and empowerment, whereas with the
second, the goal seems to be more or less, just hate. Good Whites
end up in jail for stupid racist acts. We need to slow this down.
That's what the jew wants. Again, I don't want to mix or be part of
blacks, etc. BUT I wont let the Jew bait me into beating down
negroes . That day of war might come, so lets save it until then.

What you mention about Bush is merely him trying to snuff the flames
of unrest in Whites, those still trapped in the judeo-xian haze. He
knows that people are starting to truly see whats going on!! But
ironically, I'd love to be a fly on the wall of the Bush house hold
if one of his daughters came home with LeRoy Johnson from the pj's!

16. do you think christian morality, which insists on egalitarian or 
"everyone is equal" concepts, is behind this perception?

I never really viewed that expression the way most have; thus my
take on it predates christianity. It is in fact a pagan virtue which
the xians stole. (as they did with sooooo many Pagan inventions and
ideas) To me, it never meant that literally EVERY person on Earth
was equal in standing. Obviously, there are surface differences such
as race and financial status, and more spiritual and moral
differences. I have taken it more as, when I come across a brother
or sister, judge them only after knowing them for a bit.

Getting back to the whole anti-christian stance, I think it is VERY
counterproductive.
The Jew wants to ensare White youth into Satanism because it is a
vehicle that appeals more to youth, and evil can be more openly
encouraged. What does it mean to be anti christian today? Does it
mean that I am anti my mother, father, grandparents, and every
decent White out there who is christian??? That's foolish. The idea
is to teach the truth and show them the Pagan path. The masses are
unaware of ANYTHING that went on before christ. Christianity is
wrong for Whites, however it has been Aryanized. We must keep that
in mind. The only thing screaming "kill the xians" benefits is the
Jew. Plus, its so damn easy to target xianity. I love how you'll get
some bands saying, we're anti-Judeo-Christianity, yet their songs
attack only the Nazarene.
They kill 2 birds with one stone.......they bash christ twice: once
for being himself, and second for being a Jew. BUT they never attack
world Jewry and Zionism. Its just another bland crucifixion song.

The morality that does exist in christianity is borrowed from Pagan
chivalry and honour codes. I see nothing wrong in this. The rest of
the religion is a jewish trap.

17. on the antifa.net website, the page title is "All people are 
equal" - what does this mean, and what are your feelings on it?

Again, being Pagan, I do not live by the doctrines and teachings of
the bible. Thus that phrase holds a different meaning to me. To me
it means, we all have a fresh start in life, and when you meet
someone, the slate should be blank. I am aware though that the
phrase is meant as a propoganda tool by the Jews and Christian
church. No, we are not "all equal". That is ludicrous.

18. it seems insane to insist that people are "equal" even within 
genetic populations. for example, your guitarist in grom is a lot 
better on guitar than i am. how can i "equal" him without lots of 
guitar practice - and even then, i might not be as good. would i be 
"equal" then?

You are 100% correct. I have played guitar for 12 years, that puts
me ahead of many people, but also puts me behind those who've played
for 20 years. Even within our own race, some are poor, some rich;
some are healthy, some not; some are ugly, some attractive;
.........that's why I apply the term as I do. If I meet you, and 10
other people today, I owe you the courtesy of viewing you all as
equal, before I get to know you. There is no such thing as concrete
reality, it can only be attained as an ideal or thesis.

19. it seems to me that NSBM, as a genre, seeks to make music that 
uses melodic composition to imply a structure, like that of a poem, 
by which split things come together and irrelevant things are
removed
from focus. is there a political or philosophical reason for this? 
(note: this is kind of a dummy question to let you talk about how
you
compose)

There are different schools of BM and they apply to NSBM as well.
You have the all out cold aggression of bands who draw influence
from the likes of Bathory; you have the haunting sounds of bands
that followed the guide-lines of BM such as Mercyful Fate, which
stuck to heavy metal stylings yet created auras; and you have bands
that straight out are influenced by classical music and this is
exemplified by a band like Emperor, and they spawned a million
copies!; you'll also find that Pagan folk music is a HUGE part of
NSBM.

NSBM stays close to blood and soil. Cultural influences shine
through in many bands, and that is a key. Also, being that the music
is meant to serve as almost a libation to our Race and Gods, the
glory and honour is abundant, creating that epic quality. Only a
poem or classical opus could rightly tell the tale of Aryan honour;
well, its carried over into the electric age. Even with bands like
my own Grom, who borrow more from the school of heavy metal/thrash
than classical, the songs are epic because of the lyrical content
and the mood I was in when writing the songs. I do not write songs
about serial killers; I write songs of Pagan war, farmers, chivalry,
and Aryan virtue. So, there is not necessarily a philosophical or
political INTENT when creating the music; it's the political and
philosophical stance of the artist that allows him/her to create
passionate anthems.

20. who writes the songs in grom? who starts the process?

I am the main lyric and music composer of Grom. The process starts
when I wake up, and does not end until I fall asleep, and even that
may not happen! Music is always flowing through my mind. Whether
it's a Sodom song stuck in my head, or endless riffs that my mind
tries to piece togethr,  Im always composing. When I stumble upon
something worthy, I'll write it down. Then add lyrics. The music
always seems to come from an idea or mood. I'll get inspired by
something, then translate that emotion into music, and then I'll
write the lyric.

What inspires me most is my blood and soil.....tales of war on
occidental soil; Aryan tales of bravery and chivalry; repsect for
Nature and my gods! The creation stories....

Then I also might be merely inspired by the season or weather during
the time of me writing.
I also am a huge fan of other genres of extreme metal, such as
hardcore and deathmetal. I am in two other bands: SadoCorpse, which
is NS death/grind and HateLordz, which is NYHC/hatecore.

I had to have other outlets because I also have death metal and
hardcore riffs constantly in my mind. Thus, if Grom were my only
band, every song would be so different! It'd be schizoid music. So I
leave the BM to Grom, and the death metal and hardcore to my other
projects.

21. how often do you practice?

I play guitar every day and night.....classical more than electric.
I also practise here and there with my drummer, who has been my
right hand man the past year. He has helped me complete the musical
vision I had for Grom since since its inception, and he's also in my
death metal band SadoCorpse. GROM as a unit, admittedly so,
practices a pathetic amount of times. Maybe once or twice a month.
What counts is the sound on our cd's and our live performances,
which people seem to enjoy a lot, so we're doing alright for
practicing so little.

22. how did you find other band members?

The original drummer, AK Belarus, lived in my area. When we met and
talked, we realised that we both had the same life missions. We were
anti-zionists and Pagan and we wanted a group that would serve as a
vehicle for our ideas. Krieger was brought in, as he knew Belarus,
and originally my brother Void was in the band as well, on keys. Our
singer, Jsick, is Kriegers cousin. Grom is a very family, pan aryan
oriented outfit.

Since that original line-up there have been changes. Belarus is a
Marine away in iraq; my brother lives in FL; but we are stronger
than ever.

23. do the rest of the band share your political views?

Yes......we differ in the amount of activism we are involved in as
well as study, but we are all anti-Semitic, NS and pro-pan Aryan. As
far as Paganism goes, I think I would be the head figure, as I have
studied and practised it longer than the rest of my band combined. I
am okay with this because I write the lyrics and create our concepts
and goals.

I think it would be very hard to maintain a racial band if there
were any members that did not abide by the racial terms. Anti-
Semitism is very important to me. I could work with a non Pagan, so
long as they were anti-Semitic.

24. what in your mind are the greatest black metal bands?

Heres my list, in no particular order: Bathory, Mercyful Fate,
Celtic Frost, Venom, Emperor, Mayhem, and Burzum. All those bands
were ground-breaking, genre creators. They all spawned a million
wanna-be's. They each had something so great and inspiring in their
music. Of course, I think it doesn't apply to all their releases
obviously, but in their prime they are the kings.
No one did black thrash aggression like Bathory; No band weaved a
mystical circle around you like Fate; no one crushed the listener
with a thrash hammer like Frost; Venom were kings of evil
headbanging mayhem; and what can I say about the next
three.......Mayhem: cold, dark, brutal!
Emperor: Wagner meets the wild hunt! Their first full cd is EPIC;
and Burzum, well Varg Vikernes may well have composed some of the
best metal ever, Critics site some of the simplicity of the music,
but theres nothing wrong with that. As an artist he knew how to
create mood through sound. Varg was a master at creating melancholy
soundscapes and ancient sounding passages. Burzum is unparalleled.

25. do you find value in black metal bands that espouse pro-European 
ideas or themes, but are not NS per se?

Yes and no........I do in the fact that I am an extreme metal fan,
and I am happy to be able to throw on a Thyrfing or old Enslaved cd
over a Satanic Warmaster, Dark Funeral or any other satanic BM band.

The problems lie here:

If a band espouses to pro Aryan themes, but plays the game "safely",
that means that they are giving into jewish establishment. That
means that instead of sticking to their virtues and seeking labels
like Resistance, Panzerfaust, PNR or Micetrap to sign with, they are
looking for a better Jewish deal. OR it means that they really don't
care about the Aryan ideals/pro European themes and its just a
gimmick. One band that flirts with NS imagery is Marduk. If these
guys were for REAL about National Socialism, they could work WONDERS
for their race by signing with a racial label. It would send shock
waves through the BM scene....but they'll never because they either
don't care, or they wont "settle" for a "smaller" label.

I see where the good might be, I mean I'd rather a kid listen to
Amon Amarth over Eminem or Cannibal Corpse, but still. Those bands
that espouse just make it harder for the true, because they get the
media play, more attention etc. Then they express their twisted
views on politics and make US look bad.

They do not even have to be NS, they could straight out be White
Power, Pagan, etc. Why aren't more bands outspoken??? As its easier
to cheat than to properly achieve, its easier to wear a viking
helmet onstage than an SS arm band. Everyone has to realise that the
White Race is in its witching hour........we're running out of time
real fast. Back in the 80's there was room for the "Reign in
Bloods". Bands and lp's that flirted with Aryan imagery and hate. We
cannot afford that luxury now. People need to know the truth. The
youth by and large are the ones who support cd sales. Its important
for them to have PROPER Aryan music to help guide them, so they
avoid that satanic metalhead stage.

That is why to me, any band that is not pro Aryan is useless; any
band that has "leanings" better straighten themselves out and decide
which side of the fence they are on. NSBM has to be marketed better
and spread out. Theres so many types of bands that anyone's tastes
would be satisfied. Its NS or not.

26. are you pro-European in a "pan-European" sense, or do you 
represent only your own tribe?

I am aware of my cultural and geographical roots, and I am proud. I
know the languages of my mother and father lands and keep the
traditions in my family. However, I am 100% pro Pan Aryan. I am
completely disgusted by and oppose the conflicts that Europeans have
with each other. These conflicts were created by the Jew, and those
who still take part are assisting our Race's death. Serb vs Croat,
Catholic vs Protestant; Pole vs German......it all has to stop.

I live my life by the ideal of "one face, one race". All whites are
my brothers and sister, be they from Italia, England, Norway, Chile,
Mexico, Canada etc. Survival is insured by UNITY. We will only win
this battle if we stay united as one.

27. it seems some people in black metal circles get caught up on
what
they don't like (africans) while forgetting to praise and strengthen 
what they do like, e.g. white culture and society. you have 
successfully avoided this; what's your secret?

The secret is simple. The more you wallow in the negative side of an
issue, the harder it becomes to overcome it. Believe me, around 8
years ago, those around me found me completely unbearable to be
around, because all I talked about were Jews, Jews, Jews. I became
consumed by hate, and I became miserable. What I discovered was that
the only way to overcome these feelings was to have my struggle; my
goal and my love be a million times stronger than the hate for my
enemies. We must acknowledge the jew as public enemy number one, but
put the goals of Aryan ideals first. It could be that we shall
defeat the jews without a single bullet being fired, if we just
finally reach Aryan enlightenment! That is what the Jew has severed
us from and so desperately tries to keep us from.

Everything is made up of energies, and we put out energies every
day. I almost feel like the more you fear and hate something, the
stronger it becomes. I know its hard, for the jew has done so much
to us; our people have suffered so badly, that its hard to not wish
death constantly, but we must remain balanced. A great warrior is
balanced, and we must follow that model.

28. do you think black metal will ever leave the realm of popular 
music and be more like classical?

Ultimately, I think the real mainstream "bubble-gum" bands like COF
and Dimmu Borgir will be forgotten except on some Jew's sales
receipts, but the "underground" will survive as myth and examples of
epic times. Art is our window to the past. It is thanks to the great
European bards, minstrels and poets that we possess such great
knowlegde of the past. Therein lies the beauty of NSBM.....the
anthems are about blood and soil, and about the times and struggles
of a people; what better window to the past for someone who digs up
these cd's 600 years from now!

It deserves to be regarded as classic, especially considering that
most "classic" musicians today just perform and re-do music from 2-
500 years ago. There is no "classic" music being recorded today. The
closest to the spirit and compositions of likes Bach, Wagner and
Vivaldi would be the BM bands of today.

29. what do you think of andres segovia as a guitarist?

I play my Spanish classic guitar (with nylon strings) everyday. With
this guitar I compose 90% of my anthems. Andres Segovia is the
father of classic guitar, period. I have a few lp's featuring the
works of Paganini, Vivaldi and other greats. Segovia is the master,
but the players that I hail most would be George Lynch, who can
shred but also has a great feel for classical playing and theory,
and of course, the player of all players, EVH himself. Anyone who
puts him down is a complete idiot. The guy invented metal guitar
playing.

30. how long do you think humans have been as intelligent as they
are
now? is this different from the 3,500 years recognized by our 
"official" written history?

These days, we confuse technology with intelligence. I believe that
we use less of the brain than we did 300 years ago, but the part
that we DO use today, we go deeper than ever before.
Humans by and large lack common sense, and emotions have been our
downfall. Even within Aryan ranks, empires have fallen due to greed,
jealousy, and rage. All vices that we must work to overcome.

I think the ancient Hellenes, Romans and Egyptians were probably
more intelligent than us today, because more things HAD to be worked
out by the mind and by the understanding of Nature and her elements.
If the pyramids were to be constructed today, computers would head
the design and operation, no doubt. In the times of the pharaohs,
great pyramids were built by strong hands, brilliant mathematical
minds, and by people who read the stars, and the effects the
solstices and equinoxes had on them.

Ancient Hellas should serve as the example of the ultimate time for
our race. They had military might without the horrible and
unnecessary overkill of todays wars and arms races; they reveled in
philosophy, art, music and literature. It was indeed a golden time
for humanity, specifically the White race!

31. what do you think have been the effects of the internet on:

a. black metal........it poured water on the flames of the
mysterious Scandinavian scene! Lol
On one hand it really spread the music around and helped fans reach
out. Unlike the 80's where you needed a stamp, an IRC, and two
months to wait for a response. The internet allowed people to reach
each other for trades; reach the bands; and order stuff much more
easily. Despite the rumour mills and shit, the internet has been
great for extreme metal.

b. NSBM......Again, the internet was great. Communication is the key
to any movement. The internet allows comrades from every continent
to get together and speak/plan.
NSBM followers can read interviews, check out sites, order merch and
meet new people in our fight against Zionism. I know the feds can
monitor the net, but they do it to everything anyway.

c. "alternative" politics........I can say its been great for the
National Alliance, and for WP/NS in general. My great comrades and
co-workers that I have now were friendships that started with
internet acquaintanceship. It's the ease of communication that is
the #1 help.

32. what do you think of third front politics (overthrow.com)?

I have been to that site and others like it; they seemed a bit too
"anarchist" for me. I stick to my political platforms quite
religiously, so I do not have much care or attention for those
beyond the National Alliance. The NA is the greatest hope we have
for official representation.

33. how often do you have to deal with infiltrators? have you been
attacked at any of your shows? threatened by  michael chertoff?
threatened by antifa?

No one has the balls to attack us.........there have been threats,
but no action. We have received bomb threats and death threats (as
have some venues that hosted us); the ARA has protested us; we're on
all the cute little JDL lists, but ultimately it amounts to shit for
those who hate us. We are NOT involved with anything illegal, and we
are 100% excersising our Constitutional rights.
So there is no case against us, and that the way it will stay. And I
send that message out to others again, and again. Fight within our
rights, don't end up in jail!

35. someone once commented to me that at the very least, 
antifa/SHARPs are "as hateful" as the worst of the skins. could it
be
that some of the people on both left and right are looking to kick 
some ass first and worried about the ideology second?

Some SHARPS have proved to be violent, some not. The ones who are
usually act up because many of them indulge in drug use. They are
always tripping and are wired. The other simple reason is that they
are all muds and traitor Whites. They do not behave like Aryans.
Yes, while there are  many NS/WP Skins that beat the fuck out of
people, for the most part they are repsectful. Ive been to shows
where at the end, people would head to the conveniance store to get
drinks etc, and everyone acted politely. I have been to hardcore
shows and see SHARPS do the same thing, only to steal and harass the
store owners. (mostly asian store owners). So they are true
hypocrites.

They have chosen to be un-Aryan. Thus, they are immoral and savage.
A lot of them are gays as well. A real motley bunch.

36. what is your opinion of bands such as krieg and judas iscariot, 
who while they are not NSBM carry some of those ideas deep into the 
mainstream black metal audience? (i know i asked this in email; look 
at it as a forum for your views here)

Here are my views, in 100% complete honesty. Both bands are
absolutely hated by NSBM hordes, the Pagan Front, etc and so on.
They are considered frauds and traitors.
I will start with Krieg.

Krieg is a local band, us being in NY and their leader being in NJ.
I have spoken with Imperial many times, from topics that ranged from
music, to shows, to Jews. Most recently we discussed nihilism and
NSBM. I think Imperial is a decent guy, and his music is grim. I
think he would be great if he aligned his energies with Aryanism. Am
I disappointed with some of his acquaintances and show choices???
Yes, for sure. I think he chose a gaggle of fools over comrades that
would prove true to him. The Kult of Azazels, and scores of others
like them serve no purpose but that of the Jew. Imperial should
align himself with the Aryan legions, and escape the dark-side. He
has given me reasons, which I accept, and I know he hopes to rise
above one day to Aryan enlightenment. My outlook though, is do it
now! Don't wait. Waiting only breeds complacency. He might have even
more reasons, that I do not know of. I can speak for myself, that on
a rating of 1-10, my life scores a negative 100 as far as how happy
I have been and how "life" has faired me. I have suffered quite a
bit, as has my family. I did not allow myself to get caught up in
misery and sadness. I had to rise with the glory that my Gods
provided me with. I take solice in the fact that when I grieve, so
does Allfather and Allmother; when I fell pain, they do as well. I
am not alone, and that which awaits beyond death is the great hall.
That is my outlook, and I cannot dissect someone else's.
Krieg has hailed and supported Grom, I hail Imperial for this. Many
kids do like his band, and many mainstreamers consider Krieg NS.
Therein lies the danger, not so much in Krieg itself, but kids will
pick up a Krieg cd and be like, "ok, this is cool........lemme see
what else their label has, or who they link'..........all of a
sudden that kid is exposed to scum.

If Imperial was to rethink the stance and goal of Krieg, I would
hold a hand out to him. Until then, my opinion is that he will
compose grim music, people will buy the cds and retain the band's
cult status, but I don't think they will open gateways to Aryanism
or anti Semitism.

Now, onto a true traitor, scum. Akhenaten and Judas iscariot.  First
off, I think the music is a 2 bit DarkThrone rip off. Monotonous and
repetative in a bad way. The lyrics are cliché BM, and over all, I
cant for the life of me make a case where this band would be what it
is without the jew media help. He is a Jew media darling. Akhnaten
creates satanic/evil/nihilist music (and crappy stuff with
Sarcophagus.....fuck the fuck pig?!?!?!) that just clouds the young
Aryan mind. And lets not forget his lovely involvement with
Democratic Party donations! He is a rich boy, born with a silver
spoon in his mouth. His best friend in life is a Jew, and some have
made allegations that his family has some Jewish roots as well. I
cannot comment on uncertainties, but what I can say is that he has
been disloyal to his race and to a movement that he pretended to be
part of. I also hate his hippie/commie behaviour of American flag
burning......while he's on Occidental soil!
Burn the flag here, and see how fast your pinko ass gets done! Why
doesn't he burn the israeli flag like we do??? He's in Germany, why
not burn their flag??? Again, he takes the easy Jewish way out. Kids
who buy his cd's and listen to him, are going to be on the level of
those who listen to 50 cent. The only difference is dress and lingo.
I see nothing redeeming about JI. Also, unlike Neil from krieg,
Akhenaten has a megalomaniac opinion on himself. Hes the self
proclaimed King of US BM!!! Never reached out to many
bands........never helped out with racial activism.

Fuck him, he is one of the artists who stands in our way. 

It is our goal to infiltrate the mainstream, without changing our
ideals. I am out to recruit, not stay "evil cult underground". I
don't think we need the in between bands.

37. what do you think the future holds for america after her war
with
iraq?

I will make this brief, because it's a subject that requires a
looong response, and I am actually writing an article for PNR  rex
and BKS zine, so check those sites for it soon! But heres a
synopsis:
a) Bush and USA remain Israel's puppet. The two blue bars that flank
the star of david on the jew flag represent the Euphrates river and
the Nile. The between represents the land between the two rivers,
which the jews say is theirs! So, if it follows the zionist coarse,
Syrias next, then eventually the whole Middle East.

b) Bush is part of the Anglo-Saxon corporate oil tycoon faction that
makes up a small part of the US leadership. Getting sick of being
rich as zionist pawns, Bush and his cowboys decided to take the
whole cake. Iraq was actually a deal with the Arabs. Saddam ( a
former CIA operative) leaves under the guise of a war; the US
controls their oil; helps Syria and palestine absorb israel little
by little. Theres A LOT more money to be made with a US/Arab
alliance than a US/Jew.........stay tuned!

38. do you think NSBM will exist in five years? ten?

The current bands and scene still have some years left. Don't
forget, that because its politics first, music second, there will
always be a presence and music needed.  An example are RAC/Hatecore
bands.......the guys who tore shit up in the 80's are still kicking.
It'll be the same for NSBM because the mainstream media does not
dictate it as a trend. Cd sales are not part of the game, so yes, 5,
10, 15 years. As long as metal is around and useful (because NS
music is also a recruitment tool) there will be NSBM.

Thanks for the interview! It was different for sure, which is
refreshing. Hails to all our legions!
Look out for the upcoming Grom releases:

Grom/The Shadow Order split....."Sons of Zeus"  on Unholy/Pagan
Nations Rising rex
Grom full cd: "By Oak, Ash and Thorn" on resistance rex

SadoCorpse: "Galleries of Gore" Unholy rex.........sick WP
death/grind featuring Ymir of Grom

1488

GROM
grompaganwar.cjb.net

-~-

Wilhelm
of ALLIED METAL LEGIONS

1. what first inspired you about the sound of metal music and made
you want to experience it?

I was young and unusual sights & sounds appealed greatly to me.
Around my 12th year I grabbed whatever I could get a hold of- AC/DC,
BLACK SABBATH, OZZY OSBOURNE and METALLICA, the usual... Several
school chums of mine shared the same interests, but desired not to
investigate anything more distant. I searched for new and heavier
music as my curiosity for metal grew. I soon became aware of SLAYER,
MERCYFUL FATE and KING DIAMOND, which I took an immediate liking to.
Shortly thereafter I ran across a "known" metal zine at a local
store and sweeped through the classified section. There I found a
whole network of bands, fanzines, distros, tape traders and ordinary
fans with tastes not dissimilar from my own. Contacts were soon
established and an important part of my life began.

2. how did you discover the Internet, and how did the allied metal
legions forums come about?

It was 1998 when I logged on for the first time. Initially, I
visited websites to get information pertaining to underground bands
I was into. I remember one in particular, with a rather curious
name, I though a bit over the top. Over time I discovered the
FullMoon Productions metal bulletin and posted there for several
months until I had no more access. I wouldn't get back online until
latter 2000.

ALLIED METAL LEGIONS' online forum opened during the summer of 2001,
after I became dissatisfied with the direction of other metal
message boards. I wanted a place where metal information could be
made accessible without the general bullocks associated with the
uncontrolled chat environment. AML is a supportive group of
underground, metal activists with the goal in mind to keep a small
and cohesive unit together capable of intelligent and meaningful
discussion. There is also an AML newsletter obtainable via snail
mail and a zine in the works.

3. what have you learned in the course of these forums? 

I've learned that it's easier to make enemies through message forums
than through the old ways of underground communication- snail mail,
phone or in person. The message board is an open area where the one
on one relationship is replaced by an anything goes, hostile
environment. One thing, bumping into foes, who you would otherwise
not be in correspondence with, is more likely in places such as
these. On the plus side, mbsystems make finding metal info more
practical, but the trade off is as I have described above.

4. has what you have learned affected your view of America? 

No, but what I have learned has affected my view on the current
state of underground metal music. Some things really disappoint me.
Like the lack of honor among metalheads. The football crowd should
never have been allowed to participate.

5. what are, in your mind, the historical roots of metal? 

We could thank EARTH. From this band arose BLACK SABBATH. Let me not
forget LED ZEPPELIN, JUDAS PRIEST and BLACK WIDOW.

6. what is the relationship between prog-rock, classical music, and
the death/black metal of today?

I'm afraid the death/black metal of "today" isn't in pursuit of
musical excellence or importance as the aforementioned. Otherwise,
death and black metal, in it's pure and strongest form, is alien to
less spirited areas of metal. It should be philosophically and
musically sound. I think prog-rock and classical are composed with
the same goal in mind, driven by mentally active, artistic and
visual characters. A good example of each is delivered by the
Italian band DEVIL DOLL headed by Mr. Doctor, an eccentric visionary
formally of Yugoslavia.

7. what era of metal is closest to your own sentiments and
conceptual desires?

The 80's and 90's for sure. Less people involved at those times.

8. do you think metal can coexist with rock, or that rock will
assimilate it?

They've coexisted for over 30 years now. Metal came from rock, but
has evolved into a more extreme and less desired form of opposition
music than it's predecessor. As long as there are metal puritans
around, -metal- will continue to stay uncanny without any invading
influence from inferior genres of music. Assimilation has and will
occur, giving rise to new variations of protest. Grunge is an
example, taking classic rock, punk and metal stylings but not
surprisingly staying within the "friendly" realms of mainstream
culture. The same with nuMetal, a mutant of hardcore, late 80's
thrash, trendy 90's death metal and rap. It's bouncy enough for the
crowd, but has no real passion or energy.

9. are there "right ways" and "wrong ways" of creating each genre of
metal?

In my personal opinion, rap music and metal are not compatible, nor
is "Christian Metal" or "Christian Black Metal". I think there has
been an abhorrent amount of experimentation in metal, especially
with improper synth or techno work. I don't view "metal" as just
another form of music. Degradation of its sound by self important
"open minded individuals" is too often accepted, when it should be
ignored or crushed. Established genres such as black metal, speed
metal or whatever.... Who am I to say that there are right or wrong
ways of creating them? I could say that ANTHRAX was an outright
atrocity, for example. Speed metal for wiggers.

10. how do you see elitism fitting into metal, and what is its role
in the context of meritocracy?

"Elitism" is better practiced than talked about. There's enough
crowing about being elite by otherwise mediocre people. Elitism is
an essential part of "real" metal. Mediocrity doesn't even apply.
Half-assed work takes less concentration and effort- it's something
that anyone "could" do, but not everyone can be motivated enough to
be engaged in a complex exercise!

11. can any society exist without evolutionary pressure? what about
musical genres, in the same context? how does this apply to metal in
the current time?

Evolutionary pressure forces societies to toughen up and fight for
their survival. It separates the iron fisted from the tin foiled.
We've become so industrialized, so set a drift in modern
conveniences and banal sentiments, that there is little need to seek
out something of a greater importance and discover new territory and
possibilities while keeping a sincere heart. Music , metal as an
example, operates in the same way. There is no pressure to attempt
crafting distinct, workable art, thus all the minimalistic, warmetal
and other flat attempts to keep "metal" alive. Evolution has slammed
itself into a brick wall going 1000 miles per hour, with debris
scattered all over the place or rolling downhill- Stagnation and
degeneration.

12. do you play any video games? 

I enjoy some, yes, however not enough for it to consume my life. I
am a huge fan and advocate of the old Nintendo cartridges. Allot of
it's about nostalgia. I don't consider leaving such things in the
past. I'm an avid gamer in this case, and appreciate many of the
fantastical Vgs like the ZELDA series or BATTLE OF OLYMPUS. Even the
ZELDA titles for the new N.system are a great pleasure. I enjoy a
few hours every now and then but this is where it stops. I can't get
into any of this modern gaming shit or "culture". Instead, give me
an old NES system or better yet an opponent to wage war on a chess
board with. Chess is essential!

13. which is a greater motivator, fear or pleasure, in your view?
does this vary from human to human? could this measurement be used
to subdivide the human species?

I can't touch up on fear. Let's kick that one out if you don't mind
and drop disappointment in it's place. So, Mr. Prozak, we have-
Disappointment and fear. Let's work with these two. I say both are
equal, to some extent. My experience is that disappointment leads me
to try just a bit harder than the next guy. I admit I get
disappointed easily, however I don't allow it strangle what goals I
have in mind. Negativity expressed towards me, something I do or
something I hold dear is very motivating. I'm able to see the
weakness of others and realize that my personal strengths are
greater than their own. It gives me great pride when I can smash
barriers and reach "pleasure". For me, pleasure earned is more
fulfilling than false pleasure given. So, the former is indeed
animating, naturally. Disappointment and Pleasure work together well
for me. Opposites - "Cycle".

14. some say wars are ideological; others say they're economic. is
it possible both are true, in a time when ex-CIA direction john
woolsey is warning us that we're in a post-cold war world war with
arabic rogue states?

Having observed some motivating factors behind this specific battle,
"The Third Gulf War", I'd say both are correct. Though I don't feel
I have enough insight on this to pass an appropriate judgment, a few
things just seem a little suspect.

15. the united states justifies its wars by claiming to bring
"freedom","democracy","free speech" and economic progress to other
nations. would you say this is an essentially liberal or
conservative approach?

Conservative or Liberal? Hmmm.... I could answer, but wrongly, so
truthfully, I don't know. I don't pretend to know either. I can only
give my opinion- This move seems to have a hidden agenda. These
excuses are made to validate the need for war to protect "our" own
interests and the safety of a few nations pulling the cock of the
American government around by a harness. An example is the idea that
we're targeting Iraq specifically to "liberate" their population.
Sounds good on paper or by word, but if such were the case, we could
have done so years ago. Let's see how Iraq, and the middle east for
that matter, accept these new changes. Middle Eastern / Islamic
democracy = Oxymoron?

16. some people don't feel "good" about ideas or actions unless they
apply universally, whether to all people in a local area, or
conceptually to all things. is this motivated by fear or pleasure?

When it comes to culturally acceptable ideas / actions - Fear of
rejection. It's natural for people to conform to ideologies popular
among their friends, family and associates. The path becomes more
difficult uphill than downhill when roaming a mountain, and the same
applies to less physically strenuous activities, like thinking. I
believe pleasure comes through more often when someone willingly
becomes apart of a "group" that has no major, social impact. I'd
associate fear as being connected to the forceful dominance of the
status quo. However, there can be exceptions within this rule, like
in the metal scene. The usual case is that someone investigates this
music by choice (or accident), but when becoming more involved in
it, tends to adopt the "ethics" set by the general crowd and fears
to deviate.

17. what makes you happier, trying harder until you get something
achieved, or being allowed to participate in a group activity? are
your randomly-chosen "peers" from school the same way?
 
Definitely earning something of value after hard work. Group
activity? If the "group" has aims close to mine, then I would gladly
work with them, but from a more socially distant relationship. It
would be foolish to say that you or I are not involved with any
"group". Such is not the case.

18. why do you think many metalheads have an extreme allegiance to
or idol-worship of varg vikernes, even though he's in jail and has
left metal?

The ‘Lore' behind Varg is very appealing. BURZUM, a terrific band
btw, branded itself into the hearts and minds of many black metal
activists during the 90's and even today. Specifically, I think the
concepts behind BURZUM, not just the music, are ideal in attracting
youths drawn to National Socialistic ideologies. Varg having torched
a church and murdered a key player rolling around the early
Norwegian black metal era prompted further nosiness, interest and
then "worship". Of course it sounds all very exciting, and Varg has
shown his abilities to relate his philosophy about Aryan superiority
/ dominance, but really, it's nothing I couldn't fathom as being
subject to worship. I personally don't idolize this character, but I
admire his willingness to stand against typical black metal logic
and of course for the monumental music he left behind. BUT, that's
it.

19. you like to post zen-like questions, such as "sound: water /
rock / grass / air"; what led you to this line of thinking?

This is in regards to the message forum at ANUS.com. I became
interested in these short "descriptions" at an early age, having
being raised in a household where philosophical, thought provoking
discussion were a constant. My father has extensive background in
this area as well as with Eastern philosophy after some years spent
in the Orient. Much of their writings express something very natural
and imaginative in only a few words. I admit to being more of a
rookie-student and observer than a master in this subject. Sound- "A
frog jumped into the pond. -plop-", Silence- "The sound of snow
falling on the ground" or even "The sound of one hand clapping".
These invoke images of a more earthly-naturalistic kind. "Locally"
we'd be more familiar with some human / God related bollocks.

20. sometimes you allude to working out with weights. what do you
like most about the cycle of resistance, overcoming, and reward that
comes with workouts? or are you strictly geared toward the long-term
health ideal?

I enjoy weight lifting and other physical challenges, such as hiking
or jogging, although my priorities at this time are to recover from
an accident due to a slip of my own selfishness. When I first began
training, my goal was to become healthier and more fit. I have a
natural tendency to gain strength quickly so my next agenda was to
train as heavy as possible without consideration of what I would be
faced with. As time went on I would train either using heavy or
light weights, depending on what I wanted to achieve at that point.
The idea that I was becoming stronger and "better" physically
elevated my confidence and self esteem and resulted in dramatic
progress in both my work and schooling. I've been inconsistent with
my exercising for about a year, and seeing where ego got in the way
of my health, I've been given ample time to reflect on what I should
do rather than what I could do when I return. That goal is- long
term health, as you have stated. I now understand there is nothing
wise about pushing ones

21. ancient greeks and romans had an ideal of body, mind, and spirit
that including learning the arts, sciences, letters and religion,
but also had a heavy amount of physical exercise and self-
perfection. what about this is contradictory to our ideals today?

It would seem modern society needs stimulus and self fulfillment
through other activities, such as sitting around on the couch,
watching TV or whatever else dulls the mind. There's been sort of a
prevailing idea in these parts that "thinking" is "uncool" or
"stupid". Even in our colleges there are students with these same
exact perceptions. We're at a loss without respect for honor and
academic achievement. For a good example of where we could be if
education and self-discipline were held in high regard, research a
bit on Japan. As materialistic as they might be in trying to catch
up with our "image", their customs and ambitious goals are opposite
to our own, in some or most cases.

22. some have said that cities make it too easy to live, as all you
must do is sign up for a job and then buy food. there's no
evolutionary pressure there. what's your opinion on this?

This can apply to just about anywhere the "industrial age". But yes,
I agree cities are the worst, turning out more flops than one can
shake a stick at.

23. do you think the USA will break up into separate nations? 

The USA will remain as one unit, and decay as one unit. Thoughts,
ethics, mental strength will continue to be canned.

24. are money and the barrel of a gun the only things that could
motivate humanity?

Yes. Honor is obsolete. Whip that word on them. Their response:
"Huh?".

25. it's interesting how mainstream "lowest common denominator"
interest coincides with the idea of merging everything together and
getting an average. any thoughts on this?

Conformity and the inability to seek growth. I don't think many
really care to push beyond the average interest. Either out of fear
of rejection or simply not being able to progress, the "best" thing
for this variety to do is to stay in bounds.

26. do you think metal will become an amalgamated genre, or continue
in its disparate forms?

As stated elsewhere, I feel metal will become however it's allowed
to become. Dilution will continue, unfortunately. More importantly
"traditional" ideas of metal will continue to exist despite the
rookie types and their attempts to be open minded.

27. after the rise of black metal as a bedroom hobby, there are so
many more people in the genre that it's unrecognizable. what do you
think has changed in black metal's ideological stance as a result?

Real black metal ideology is about opposition and questioning, as
well as what we've already brought up in other portions of our chat
- Elitism. The necessary components of black metal (ie-music,
ideology) have been replaced in favor of simplicity, nonsensical
lyrics, lack of understanding and other such feeble, lamebrained
crap. This surge of incompetence is not unique to black metal. It's
a problem facing humanity.

28. what do you think of heavy metal-black metal hybrids: pointless,
or a good direction?

When you say "heavy metal-black metal" I can't help but think VENOM
or MERCYFUL FATE should be sandwiched in there. Those two covered
the gap between heavy metal and black metal. Heavy/black metal
predates what we consider "black metal" at this time, therefor no it
is not pointless.

29. which form of resistance is most important in this time of
history: a. survive quietly, and keep the insanity out of your own
head; b. protest and survive; c. organized political counteraction;
d. lone wolf infoterrorism and revolutionary activity.

All four have their advantages, so I am in no position to state that
one is better than the other. If "fighting" in defense of something,
I'd have to say the last three. The "live and let live" backing of
the first is intelligible, but in such a world as this that
philosophy won't apply unless you are willing to turn the cheek or
become a shadow.

30. what's your opinion of anarchism?

Well, currently I think Anarchism would be a failure, since man is
not equipped to survive the elements after having been subjected to
modern living. We've pretty much lost our abilities to connect with
nature- not just by convenience but by our view of nature as
something of an inferior source to us, there to be used or raped
when needed. There are still those who haven't lost their old ways
or are capable of survival without a global order, but these people
are out of touch with this common society. We've burned our bridges.

31. why is the black metal audience so bratty these days? i mean by
this: so willing to demand, and so unwilling to contribute anything
that isn't immediately personally serving?

Laziness. There is really no other answer accurate enough. It's a
disgusting fact that our black metal audience is becoming more and
more sedentary, but willing to either consume or produce garbage
without a second thought. I imagine this situation as being a race
of who can get their debut album out first after formation and how
many can follow it within a five year span. What the fuck are these
people hurrying for if not the room to brag about being established
and important?

32. describe yourself as percentages of the following elements: a.
loner b. gregarious c. empathy d. Imperial

Describing myself in percentages as these traits is not possible
sir. I am not completely set in any description that you provided,
especially "gregarious". I'm opposites, so I tend to be a loner. I
can be empathetic at times, selectively and not without reason.
Imperial.... Perhaps, depending on what specifically you are hinting
at. :)

33. if you change allied metal legions the board, what will you do
to it?

I would make it more elusive, out of sight. At this point I really
don't see changes I can make, but changes that other members COULD
make. I am happy for the most part of who we have in our collection.
70-80% I would consider exceptional, the rest either in need of
encouragement to grow or exile. Our agenda is to collect as many
constructive, active persons as possible. The main theme of AML is
metal, and providing an area free from ordinary "chat" nonsense, so
I go to great lengths to keep it functioning correctly.

34. so far, you've kept your zine personal - distributed to a tight-
knit group, although now i see it for sale in some self-construed
"elite" places - will you change this?

GALLERY OF THE GROTESQUE will continue to be a very personal zine,
distributed to a tight knit group. Yes, some distros have copies of
the zine. The print run for the next issue will be a bit more than
the previous but my intent to keep GoTG "hidden" will remain so.
GOTG delves into matters concerning metal, esoteric thoughts and
visuals. Even if distributed to a broader audience, maybe only a
handful could stomach the zine's content, or understand it!

35. what are the advantages of mass publishing something that only
an elite can understand, versus trying to limit distribution of
something the masses can understand to an elite? how does this apply
to metal print zines, metal music and democracy?

A variety of answers are possible. I would say there is no important
advantage limiting something in touch with the average blockhead
only. Mass publishing of "elite" material is good for propaganda
tactics. It'd be much more pleasant to limit distribution to the few
diehards who are able to understand whatever is being made
available, but with no real device to test someone's true merit
other than observation, it's unlikely. A process of distro by
selection may be possible, if you consider the sample as capable of
dissecting your work.

36. in the hacking community, "1337" was a joke made about those who
were new to the skill and wanted to project that they were
important, thus labelled themselves elite. why does the same
problem, of people of the lowest common denominator claiming
eliteness, show up in metal as well after it has hit the internet?

The Internet makes bogus claims and self importance easy. Whether it
be a message board, where one is able to mouth off freely and
defecate baseless arguments, MP3 links of their trite band, or
shitty webzine # 40,000 anybody can be an "Elite Metal Celebrity"
overnight. Information is sent and received faster than ever with
the net. With a few taps on the keyboard dropping into the
underground scene via internet isn't a task, it's a leisure. This
method of discovery doesn't involve that same kind of initiative
that the traditional "entry point" demanded, which was to actually
get in direct contact with the band, label or whoever you were
writing to by pen and paper + a bit of postage money. This idea can
be linked to "Evolutionary Pressure" , like we talked about earlier.
The problem situation doesn't require any sort of labor. Underground
metal culture is becoming more "convenient" thus a good percentage
of it's populus has become idle, bored whatever. So therefore, the
difference between the traditional an

We need a huge drop of interest / participation from the unfit in
metal music. I wish it could be as easy as burning a shred of paper
with the infidel's statistics on it to get rid of him, but we should
think rationally here. :) At this point- The best support we can
give to the pseudo metal mob is no support.

ALLIED METAL LEGIONS
pub134.ezboard.com/balliedmetallegions

-~-

Michael
of LADY BOY LOVERS

1. do you feel that the same basic force motivates all living
organisms?

Absolutely...if you will allow for such a "force" to be defined in
scientific terms.  I can't respectfully make a claim like "I just
sense such a force."  I believe that the physiological and
psychological characteristics of humans are profoundly connected,
via the mind and senses, to the electromagnetic Nature of the
Universe. I absolutely refrain from New Age mysticism, however.

2. are you a mystic, or a believer in mystical process?

My interest in metaphysics would be best described as being
psychological, more so than mythological.  Consciousness is a tricky
subject -- and I prefer to try my best to maintain a "scientific"
attitude toward such things as philosophy and religion.  This
explains my Buddhist-like angle on such things.

3. what is your opinion of philosophical dualism, that is, the
belief that there is a physical state as well as an abstract state,
and that in the latter an "essence" can be found that is the stuff
of souls, purity, etc?

Dualism is a viewpoint to be very carefully investigated and
understood -- one must be careful when assuming degrees of
separation between matter and "spirit".  I think it is erroneous in
general to suspect that human consciousness is not primarily the
collective function of finer neurological elements and aspects,
memory being a huge underlying factor.  I feel that, unfortunately,
we are still living in age where the very mechanics of human
consciousness are understood at such a primitive level -- although
great research is on the horizon.

I will say this much though...it seems that the deepest social
conflicts throughout history can be viewed as differences of opinion
between monistic and dualistic thinking.  I really cannot say for
sure what is "best" for the long-term all of humanity -- a uniform-
socialistic imperative inspired by dualism and paradox...or...a
monistic materialism that employs technology to control Nature and
offer advantage and convenience.  I do have huge respect for the
scientifc method, however.

4. do you think a nuclear conflict is likely in the next five years?

Other than sunburns, No.

5. why do you like macintosh computers, and what do you find that is
useful about both their hardware and OS outside of appearance?

For the record...let me start by saying that, in terms of OS
architecture, I have always had the deepest appreciation for UNIX,
rather than Macs or PCs.  UNIX-based OSes are ideal for server
purposes, as well as any computing tasks that require a very high-
precision degree of control over the hardware.

Desktop computing, rather than server administration, however, is my
primary use of computers.  For desktop computing, my preference has
always been the Macintosh OS.  I feel Apple has consistently done
the best job integrating intuitive user interface design with
advanced application functionality.  Apple's current OS technology,
Mac OS X 10.2, has given me exactly what I always wanted -- a UNIX
foundation that is elegantly connected to what I feel is the best
GUI in the industry.  Mac OS X 10.2 makes Windows XP seem archaic.

6. if you had to design the next generation of operating systems, do
you think you would build it around the files/processes paradigm of
*NIX, or would you use another basic paradigm for arrangement of
data in the system?

I'm generally content with the currently accepted standards of UNIX-
style OS architecture (foundation).  If I were to challenge myself
to innovating at the low-level...I would instead opt to increasingly
"virtualize" the logic design itself -- at the motherboard and logic
gate array level.  Microprocessor functionality can be easily
emulated -- and should therefore be treated as just a logic-function
layer.  I see no reason why microprocessor mnemonics should not be
field-programmable (flashable) for increased flexibility and
functional evolution.  If such were the current standard, you would
see tremendous innovation where energy efficiency of parallel
processing was the focus.  We'll have to wait a few more years for
advances in nanocomputing to see microprocessor (nanoprocessor)
logic to be an emulated layer, fostering much greater flexibility.

7. you own tobacco.com. do you smoke? it seems interesting you would
participate in selling death to morons. how do you feel about this
venture?

Characterizing the activity as "selling death to morons" is rather
dubious.  I occasionally smoke tobacco.  I don't use my website for
activist purposes, however.  My websites are part of a diverse
internet media and marketing effort, and commercial sales is
certainly part of the business.  You will notice, however, that
Tobacco.com has a good balance of pro and anti tobacco resources.

8. what do you look for in a shemale?

I don't really look for anything in a shemale (male-to-female
transsexual).  Having been to Thailand numerous times, I find these
people to generally be cool, friendly folks.  I do my best to treat
them as females as, most often, their presence is very much
feminine. Curiously enough...in Thailand, the male-to-female
transsexuals are often much sexier than the genetic females.

9. do you think it is likely that human society will experience
cataclysmic change in the near future? in what form do you think
this change will come?

Depends which side of the fence you are on, or what you mean by
"cataclysmic".  To most living in the West, the last "cataclysmic"
event would likely be World War II or the recent WTC destruction.
To those living today in poverty and/or famine-stricken regions,
each day may seem cataclysmic.  The invention of the transistor has
had a "cataclysmic" effect on societies.  Change is something to be
embraced, not feared.  I would like to be optimistic and predict
that any future "cataclysmic" change will actually be beneficial for
humanity, and the result of scientific innovation.

10. of all the options coming forth, what three technologies or
technological ideas that exist now do you think will become
predominantly important during the next 25-50 years?

Here are four, rather than three;

Nanotechnology, AI, robotics, and eventually, neurotechnology.

11. do you think masturbation causes an immediate relaxation of
existential stress through the release of endorphins (death-
preparedness-chemicals, among other things) that makes it similar to
the experience of religious unitivity with the world?

I think that when you're actually masturbating, you sure as hell
aren't considering the philosophical dimensions of the act -- at
least not in a "formal study" sense!  Afterwards, however, you may
be more focused on the immediate.  In most cases, I don't think the
release is tantamount to fostering "religious unitivity".  In all
honesty, I think masturbation is little more than a convenient
option for venting desire.

12. if a mass execution were occurring these days, what technologies
do you expect would be used on the substrate population?

I would guess that the weapon of choice would be that of injected
respiratory-failure-inducing drugs.

13. how do you think the buddhist tradition of scholarship in
philosophy and spiritualism compares to the "common" understanding
of western spiritualism seemingly also carried by its highest
leaders?

In "religious" matters, which essentially require first-hand
experiences with non-ordinary states of consciousness, I tend to
look for cause-and-effect relationships, explainable in
quantifiable, logical ways.  Therefore, I have a great respect for
the "scientific" Buddhist viewpoint and lifestyle.  I think the
highly-disciplined Buddhist route usually transcends (metaphysically
speaking) the "common" (generally socialized) understanding handed
down in other popular religions.

14. what do you think is the difference between an ideologue and an
activist?

In both cases, you will obviously find a tremendous degree of
idealism.  I see an ideologue as one who spends most of their
productive energy thinking of ideals...and an activist as one who
spends most of their energy acting on their ideals.  "Ideologue" has
a more theoretical flavour to it, whereas "activist" is more akin to
active participation.

15. do you think the end will come with a bang or a whimper?

End of what?  Humans created their own notions of time and space,
beginnings and ends.  I will say this much -- whatever happens on
Earth will have ZERO effect on the infinite, electromagnetic
structure and dynamics of matter itself.  As a more practical
answer, I don't predict any sort of "doomsday" in the near future.
I'd like to give humans more credit than to think they will
extinguish themselves entirely from their own devices.

16. what is your opinion on the "ownership" of housepets, AIs, or
spouses?

People love companionship.  I am all for the keeping of pets, as
long as the pets are properly cared for.  AIs are still primitive
and not as "personable" as pets are today.  I imagine that ownership
of pets -- organic or synthetic -- is ethically acceptable as long
as there is at least a full-degree of obvious intelligence advantage
by the human keepers.  Someday, AI will be phenomenally powerful and
AIs will likely seek their own autonomy.  As humans, we may need to
seriously consider the civil rights claims of these AIs, should we
wish to uphold a genuinely universal notion of freedom and justice.

17. which is your preference in the animal cruelty debate,
vegetarianism or cynical techno-predation?

I have been a vegetarian for more than ten years.  It is a personal
choice borne primarily out of a respect for consciousness.  I feel
that, as humans, we are rather arrogant to trivialize the lives of
animals with complex central nervous system development.  I don't
follow the animal cruelty or rights agendas.  I'm a vegetarian
because I love and respect Natural forms that undoubtedly possess
consciousness.

18. we hear a lot about next-generation technologies like IPv6 but
little about the next generation business/social culture of the net.
what do you think will be the function of the internet in most
people's lives?

The internet will continue to serve the masses as a convenient and
superior source for information, knowledge, and communication.
Advances in wireless technologies, particularly handheld
communicator devices making use of high-speed wireless internet
service offerings, will define the consumer information revolution.
People will have many of the same motives for their information
interests.  The difference is, a Golden Age of consumer information
technology means being able to communicate much more readily, in
much greater scope and detail, and in a multinodal and multicasted
fashion.  The web will increasingly be a personal-professional layer
which remotely connects ones "official" nature to others -- a
technology layer serving as a social interface.  The web will also
be the primary channel of artistic expression.

19. first we had language, then democracy, and now the ability to
vote with one's attention span on the non-linear internet
advertising space. what is next for individual empowerment? what
happens when you have a room full of EQUALLY-empowered people?

Biologically (Naturally), I think the notion of human equality is
entirely myth.  You always have those who want to do cool things and
be innovative.  These ingenious souls, the innovators -- will always
use their wits and influence to disrupt and enliven any equilibrium
which is seemingly uniform and uneventful.

20. what do you think was christ jesus' most admirable intellectual
trait?

I'm certainly no expert on Jesus or Judeo-Christianity.  I can only
assume, however, that Jesus must have possessed Genius-level
artistic expression and eloquence in his lifestyle, specifically as
it relates to an idealized sense of freedom and justice.  This, to
me, is a representative form of a profoundly humanistic ideal.  This
could be characterized as an admirable intellectual trait that is
deeply symbolic and akin to being a performing artist of the highest
degree.

21. in what year do you think the USA will license public despite of
bestial sex acts?

Haven't checked your email inbox for SPAM lately?  It seems legal
now!  I don't think any government will, for sheer protection of its
own "official integrity", formally license such "abnormal" acts.
This would disillusion too many people, as it relates to their
notion of government integrity itself.

22. if you were going to fight a jungle war, and needed a rifle,
which type, model and configuration would you use?

An M-16 or AK-47 would suit me just fine.  These rifles are not very
high-power or showy, but they are well-suited for such conflict
context.

23. many of us have observed that public reasons for the commission
of some action are most commonly only tangentially related to the
actual goal safely hidden behind the justification; how does this
help commerce and the sale of consumer goods, IP and services?

In a nutshell, I think all of these are just specific examples of a
structure where vested interests are perpetually given the best
political chances.

24. what ambient artists would you recommend?

I am rather unfamiliar with ambient music.  When it comes to
electronic music, however, I prefer Kraftwerk and Erasure.

25. what in your opinion are the dominant qualities of sativa and
indica strains of cannabis, and what have you learned about the
hybridization of the two (miscegenation)?

There are many excellent Indica-Sativa hybrids.  I like everything
in the Indica-Sativa gene gradient -- as long as it has good
genetics to begin with, and has been cultivated intelligently.
However, being a cannabis connoisseur, I generally know what to
expect.  With Indicas, I expect shorter, faster-finishing
(flowering) plants, with larger, much thicker leaves and dense,
dark, bluish-green buds.  With Sativas, I expect much taller plants,
much thinner leaves, and less dense buds.  Both Indicas and Sativas
are enjoyable, though.

26. what is your hierarchy of goals in life?

Innovation above all.  Being creative and yet intelligent.  This is
a difficult ideal to maintain when economic pressures thwart
absolute social freedom.  Music and computers have always been my
most intimate hobbies.  I expect to achieve greatness in these
areas.  My mind is set on it.  I cannot integrate into society in
the "corporate"-consensus fashion.  The greatest people are both
artists and scientists, using productivity to afford themselves
absolute social freedom.

27. how twisted is it that we're in an experience where with every
year the chance of death gets more likely, and there is no way out
but dying itself -- how do you feel this affects the average
american?

It's not that twisted at all.  Life is the leading cause of death.

28. should texas secede from the JCSA?

Best wishes regarding your fantasies of Texan secession.  Last time
I checked...the Bush family comes from Texas.  Who would I be to
make such a judgement when I've never lived in Texas.

29. which features made the apple // computer competitive with the
other brands of home computers offered during the time of its
existence?

The Apple ][, ][+, //e, and //c were the more costly consumer
computers of their era.  This priced them in the market to be viewed
as premium-grade tools.  They were fascinatingly well-suited for the
computer hobbyist.  They also were able to run VisiCalc and other
early productivity applications.  My fondness for old hardware in
general is that it required the programmer to have a deeper
understanding of the hardware itself.  Those who had a passionate
hobby with the early personal computers fostered in themselves a
deeper, more computer-engineering-like, understanding.

LADY BOY LOVERS
www.ladyboylovers.com

-~-

1. what made the sounds that form metal music so appealing to you ?
in other words, what in metal connected to something with you?

the emotion that comes with sitting alone and amping up your fave
new record you have waited so long to hear with no disturbances. or
the emotional feeling of nothing going well for you and your life
and just alone with your thought's and your old fave records making
you tell yourself, it will be better because at least you still have
your musik. a good record might also make you angry and motivated
like maybe a little job around the garage you needed to get done or
something and you turn it up and get it on. maybe its some
weightlifting or hitting the heavy bag and trying to go thru it with
all your might and total aggressive force? whatever the occasion and
definately even sex musik ALWAYS fills the sense of the old
something is missing gap, musik makes it better.

also us metal heads have always felt a strong connection as a unit
of people who rebel at white light religion and normal society. you
even through war still hear guys and girls from all over the world
even today refering to each other as a sort of family.

2. where do you feel this the most in your own art?

we do not play fast just to see how quik we are. when we feel the
need to do this we do, but we also never fit into the doom catagory.
most great old school death metal bands had doom riffs as do we on
accasion.

i guess the main thing is to make a story of the song with mid
tempos and more aggressive fast parts moving with the lyrics almost
like the way a author tries to portray emotions in his book like
violent eruptions in his story to tragic or depressive moments etc.

the entire song from begining to end will always have a mental
connection or particular emotion driving its course from one song to
the next with HATE, ANGER, BITTERNESS, RAGE,  REVENGE, DOMINATION
and TOTAL POWER as a constant driving force.

3. do you feel this in any other forms of art?

well, possibly to a lesser degree power lifters psyching up for that
lift or a good old fashioned bar brawl/street fight, but as far as
art maybe some films capture the same thing as a good record. i
don't read many books and i fuckin hated school cause i felt like it
was jail in a way. i also NEVER in my life enjoyed any authority
over my person or beliefs.

4. how do you find the order in which to put riffs to make a song
speak to someone else with this same voice?

hmm, i wish you had our new record because we have gotten much
better at doing that. let's say a riff has a hard core or old
MYSTICUM type breakdown that just makes your hair stand on end? ok
now you must make the drums, bass, and vocals/lyrics accentuate the
affect. this is a hard question to answer. i guess it just is our
style and comes naturally to us. you know it is really the devil
that makes us do this.

5. in EVIL INCARNATE who comes up with the rhythms?

in the first release of our demo re-issue cd/cassettes "blood of the
saints" it was mostly myself with an accasional idea from another
member. on our debut cd (blood cd was demos on cd & later on
cassettes licenses) "blackest hymns of gods disgrace" it was myself
writing over 75% with i would guess with rob my guitarist doing the
rest. on the new cd it is definately 50/50 between us. the drummers
(first andy and now garret) have always had ideas of doing changes
and setting tempos of course, because they're the percussion
experts!

6. you were in NUM SKULL, correct? - can you give a brief rundown of
your activity in that band and how you moved onto start EVIL
INCARNATE?

sure. i was the bassist in 'skull for 3 1/2 years and wrote a couple
songs with and recorded cd on DEFILED RECORDS "when suffering comes"
(my title idea im proud of) with them in 1996. we played a lot of
cool shows with a couple faves being OHIO DEATH FEST 98 or it was 97
and around this same time THE CHAMPAIN IL. METAL FEST. these were
great times with them but unfortunately i didn't always feel like a
true piece of the band. there were things i was never even made
aware of and it started to piss me off. also i wrote a lot of riffs
that the guys thought sucked and became EVIL INCARNATE. i guess my
riffs don't suck so bad after all but we are all great friends, no
hard feelings. in fact i'll see them all at my PASSOVER MASSACRE
FEST april 19th in kenosha wisconsin and scott creakmore is
recording our new cd in his MERCENARY DIGITAL STUDIOS in zion il.

7. do you think there are "right ways" and "wrong ways" to make
death metal or any form of metal?

definately there is a certain sound to a certain style like most
black metal bands tune high and play fast and most death bands tune
low and growl deeper and play more mid paced/grooves just as a
couple of examples, but i feel you need to write what you would want
to hear a band sound like and be like, and that's what EVIL INC.
does. we play what we want to play and can care less what anyone
else thinks. of course it would be great if the world considered
your band and message that comes with it (propaganda) to be what
they also enjoy.

8. is metal rock music in your view?

LOL , HELL NO !!!

9. you're about to record and release your 2nd album (some consider
"blood of the saints" the 1st making it 3 now) as EVIL INCARNATE.
how have things changed in the band and its music?

well as i'm sure you are aware andy is long gone getting fucked in
his ass by his girlfriends dildo to VENOM records in the arizona
desert with boobytraps surrounding his trailer like a lunatic, and
garret scanlan (ex CORPSE VOMIT) has been the new drummer for at
least a year now helping us write the best album of our lives in any
band we have all ever been a part of on "waiting for his return."

the track "forced inside your church" will tell the story and
explain my hate for christ, his father, and the holy spirit,
spreading satanic fury through propaganda to the world. and the song
"terror in the holyland 9/11" will raise ancient spirits of war.
watch closely as we lead the people to satan, lead them to hell and
burn them.

10. what is the place of humor in metal music? do you think you
apply this to your own works?

definately i do on occasion. i'm human so i do have these damned
things we call emotions and i couldn't create such musik without
them. i'm sure even in hell they laugh when we see someone fall down
a flight of stairs and just laugh hysterically rather than give them
assistance. it's only after you have finished laughing that we can
extend that hand to a friend to help him up.

actually on our song "gods only bastard son" it gets comical i think
with lines like WEEPING MOTHER MARY, KICK HER, CRACK THE SKULL OF
JOSEPH & in the same song RAPED THE WHORE IN HER SLEEP, MOTHER MARY
TASTED SWEET !

11. would metal music exist as it is without the world "situation"
being what it is - politics , society , economy?

well the only thing that would make it different was if it were a
communist society all over the world and the powers that be did not
want you to listen to it. but even then i'm certain you would have a
underground secret society of headbangers that are willing to die
for their beliefs. i am definately the type of person who would be
one of these, the few, the proud the brutal (quoted from my
FLESHGRIND usa t-shirt).

12. how have you learned discipline over the course of your life?

thats a funny question. i guess my uncle scott 6ft4 260lbs of ripped
muscle and his 2nd degree black belt in kenpo karate. i was
definately way out of control as a youth like most of us were. i
spent a lot of time in squad cars and hand cuffs, the zion police
all knew me by name and face like family almost, lol!!! i learned
discipline in jail of course, anything to pass the time rules in my
book when there anyways so might as well get it over with rather
than keep getting more charges and sitting your life away from fun
times and sweet pussy & metal concerts.

13. when did you start playing an instrument, and how much better
have you gotten? how often do you practice?

to answer the 2nd part of this question 1st i will compare my first
riff i ever learned which was BLACK SABBATH "iron man" the 1st basic
riff in the song, to people saying our recent cover of SLAYER "piece
by piece" is not only faster than the original but in every single
possible way better and unlike their sloppy version with a few minor
and hardly noticeable guitar imperfections of note execution. this
is coming out on the WW3 MUSIC cd tribute to gods SLAYER some fuckin
day. i mean they paid us $500.00 smackers for this cover so im sure
they will put it out its just been nearly a year now is why im
mentioning this.

i started playing guitar for anywhere from 8 to 12 hours a day for
years and years ever since i was 16 years old. now that i am 29 i
actually sometimes don't practice unless i'm with the band or i will
go and write a bunch of awesome riffs and have tons of tapes laying
around with these on them and start putting songs together. we cant
always write song after song so i need to chill sometimes on
practice.

right now i have been practicing 4 hours each day gearing up my
skills for the recording studio. now i put much more time into my
vocal practice compared to last record and im positive everyone will
be able to tell. when we are at band practice we are there for 4 or
5 hours. if its 5 at least 3 1/2 is actual practicing time.

a person is not a machine. you have to practice practice practice
and more fucking practice. i don't have to as much as in the past
only because i am a very advanced player now but young bucks get
busy or you will never become advanced you'll just be a cheez dog
shitty band like some of these awefull black metal acts that make
you smash the cd or just as generic brutal grinders that sound worse
than my fuckin asshole garbage man wakin me up when i was out late
drinking all night long. i fuckin wanna kill that guy sometimes.

14. what is more important in music , establishing a unique harmony
or communicating a sensation , feeling or idea ?

all of these things are important to us but more than anything is
perveying a message to the people of the earth. as artists you have
the unique capabilities to send a distict message as you say
communicating, connecting, leading the people to hell, lead them to
hell and burn them my brethren. this is what the christ hating
darkness machine EVIL INCARNATE was created for as a propaganda
devise. the kult was sealed in blood and fire. my soul has been
black since i was born and this is what i am here to do. the message
behind the musik is coming from my nightmares. the messages are
straight out of hell man. the christians created me and when they
did they created a devil worshipping monster.

people wonder how one can have so much hate and so much evil
surrounding them everyday and still have love for family or friends.
well you see goat i am unfortunately a human being. and yes humans
are intelligent but very emotional.  satan is evil incarnate and all
of this is for the eventual destruction of all who oppose him.

15. do you like any hard core bands ?

sure it's just i'm so immersed into the death metal/brutal grind,
and to some extent black metal scenes that i dont have much of the
music around other than some of my old faves like CRO-MAGS/DRI/SICK
OF IT ALL, SOD.

i've heard a few newer hard core bands i liked though so i support
them. bands like BLOOD FOR BLOOD, and i like bands with the
crossover style like INTERNAL BLEEDING, DYING FETUS, SKINLESS. but
my mainstay is the old school, man.

16. what metal do you listen to these days ?

well a few things i have in my cds to play area are SADISTIC INTENT,
SINISTER, old ENTOMBED, old UNLEASHED/GRAVE, NECROPHOBIC, MACHINE
HEAD, SLAYER "god hates us all"& "hell awaits", DARK ANGEL, ROB
ZOMBIE "hellbilly deluxe", HATE ETERNAL, METALLICA "waster of
puppets", CANNIBAL CORPSE "the bleeding"&"tomb of the mutilated",
HELLHAMMER, SUICIDAL TENDENCIES "how will i laugh tomorrow" ,
DANZIG, TWISTED SISTER , BATHORY "the return" , DEATH "scream bloody
gore" SUFFOCATION.

17. what is your feeling on drugs ?

i know a few people who dont take any like my common law wife i've
been with 10 years kimothy who helps me with END OF DAYS and METAL
MASSACRE festivals but my personal motto is take them if you got
them.

18. you speak out against the church. how do you feel about
christian morality? what about people who are not religious but
still have this same morality?

without morals society would be in chaotic anarchy but don't you
think a world like the one portrayed on the movie's ROAD WARROIR &
CYBORG etc, is in a way actually cool ?

well in reality i enjoy technologies and movies and concerts to help
further the satanic law that will govern earth and the heavens.
christ is a fucking racist jew! jews are the worlds most racist
people alive next to most ghetto black americans in da hood i've
unfortunately met. they really hate the white boys here but just
love our women and honestly i don't blame them, look at theirs.

hell it gets awefully old hearing about how much we still owe them
and how AWE ITS CAUSE IM BLACK IM NOT GETTING SPECIAL AND EXTRA
TREATMENT, fuck all that. raise the confederate flag in washington.

19. what do you feel is the essence of christianity?

that all depends on a few things yet to happen. it has always been a
greedy and hypocritical religion of people living a lie when they're
sinners and think they'll still die and go to heaven.

if everything comes true leading up to things as prophesied in the
bible's book of revelations and other chapters, and still no anti-
christ is known, and there's never any rapture we will know the
entire thing was a lie like i leave an option for in my own mind and
music and that perhaps these nightmares and spiritual contacts were
just that, nightmares from all the years i suffered due to that book
as a kid and teen, and mind playing tricks i suppose.

but i do know i have seen and heard ghosts with other people as
witnesses so something definately is after death for us. but like i
said if it's a crock of shit i'll be first to admit it -- i'm a
realist. also i would honestly love nothing more than to watch the
pigs die, i'll add.

so what i want to end this with is the idea that there is a real
possibility that the jews have created the entire thing and had a
couple thousand years to try and convince everyone that they are
god's chosen people and this is to further there own eventual world
domination i fear. 4000 of them didn't show for work on 9-11 in new
york you know.

20. is satanism metaphor to you, or do you believe in a literal
deity satan? is he more "symbolic" or "real" for you?

as i said i believe. possibly i have fallen victim to the years of
mental abuse by the church but i believe. i'm still open to other
possibilities but i strongly believe for now, until otherwise proven
in these darkening days to come.

21. what do you think about the concept of a single god - is this
natural or not ?

although in recent years i've moved backwards into my older more
extreme forms of satanism i in the past was very much into the
church of satanas beliefs following the words of anton zandor lavey.
my wife and i even named one of our sons magnus lavey eisenhauer.

but it has gotten to candy coated and just not my thing any more
although i still respect them because i have several comrades in
their ranks.

22. if you were in charge of humanity, what changes would you make ?

endless jewish persecutions. total global eradication of all white
light religion. satanic law would rule the heavans and the earth,
and metal music would be at the forefront of this uprising and
takover. the national anthem might possibly be SLAYER "angel of
death".

23. would you ever do a black metal project ?

FUCK YEAH I WOULD LOVE TO but it would be pure old style, not gay
synth emotions/doom with super gay type o negative voice -- fuck
that shit, it is not evil.

24. over time as i look over metal, some bands rise and others sort
of fade away. not saying the others are bad , but the ones who rise
are that much more powerful. does this happen to you? if so, what
are the most influential bands in metal, in your view?

well SLAYER have lost ground but never faded away. what ever
happened to ENTOMBED and BOLT THROWER? i see a lot of bands are
reformed so thats cool. i watched BROKEN HOPE , NUM SKULL , & JUNGLE
ROT just sort of fade away though.

the most influetial band for this heavy music i can think of next to
the classic SLAYER records is proubly old BLACK SABBATH.

25. you are about to embark on tour with mexican grind legends
ANARCHUS . what parts are you looking forward to the most ?

i would definitely say our 2 dates in mexico city with our friends
in DISGORGE , ANARCHUS & RAVAGER will be the 2 best gigs on the tour
next to texas with SCARABEUS & REIGN OF TERROR. of course my  END OF
DAYS METAL FEST will also crush. i will  be very excited to hit
florida thanks to our friends in DARK FAITH for sure. this tour is
going to be awesome!

26. all of the people in government promoting our current war in
iraq are fanatical christians or right-wing jews. does this affect
your view of the war?

yes, because there is the possible scenario that the jews are
invading our government as part of their global domination agenda.
the rest of us need to get out and vote in ANYONE but these fuckin
scabs. hell in a lot of ways i'm divided; i'm very much proud to be
american and stand behind my country no matter what but at the same
time i cannot stand the fact that it is christian ran and jews have
a lot of power here.  we have been given no choice but to get rid of
bin laden and saddam to keep these guys from killing us all but at
the same time isreal is loving every minute of it when we are
kicking their enemies asses.

basically i do not always agree 100% but i'm a american and proud to
be so.

27. what's next for metal? will it keep growing or go further into
what it is?

metal is ever increasing in popularity. i mean i've always been into
other musics my entire life other than just death metal like
traditional heavy metal and classic rock for instance, but in my
views i'm involved in the absolute most heavy and extreme style of
music possible and this is needed to get my message across properly
to the masses.

i do however feel it is moving in two directions at the same time.
metal is evolving into faggot mall core metal like the gayest 2
bands on earth DISTURBED & CREED, but at the same time a lot of the
kids are becoming exposed to the true scene that is moving even more
into extremity with bands like BERZERKER, EVIL INCARNATE, & INSISION
etc.

personally i do not discriminate against these kids into SLIPKNOT
etc. because they simply have never had the chance to be properly
exposed to true scenes like our very own we all love. had they ever
gotten the chance they would become real metallers i'm sure so don't
blame them .

28. is there still mystery and awe for you in hearing metal bands,
or are you more of a hardened veteran now ?

definitely it is rare to be shocked with a new cd or band. i would
say i am sick of most bands and i know i'm not the only one. that is
why i listen to my old shit like HYPOCRISY "obsculum obscenum" that
brings me back to the good days when cds shock and awed us all. i'm
crossing my fingers our new cd will do just that but just because we
personally think it will doesn't mean people will not think it a
total flop. it would be cool to shock but at the same time we don't
care because we like it and thats why we play it, and it is NOT
another "blackest" cd for sure!

29. has the internet becoming popular helped or hurt metal in your
view and how if so?

it has done nothing but help in my view. sure, i know die hards who
will argue with me on this but i am a die hard that has awakened to
these new technologies and wants to move ever forward into the
future as much as possible unless we all see MEGGIDO come or plauge
spreading our final destruction due to over use of antibiotics and
tampering with biological war tactics.

in the old days you couldn't just brew coffee and sit and book a
tour for instance all snail mail and phone calls without spending
all your beer and cd loot am i right? and then now you pay your IP
service at month's end and go to town all over the world with
connections doing interviews, following up on labels, booking gigs,
whatever all with a few clicks of a mouse/key board.

30. news circulating the internet has it you are now leaving morbid
records, if so can you explain why?

the reason is because they cannot release our new cd or they will be
in prison plus lose everything, and our old cd "blackest hymns of
gods disgrace" is being banned in germany due to our words against
the children of christ in this world and more specifically we have
blasphemed the jews, god's chosen ones.

the cd "blackest" has been officially pulled from SPV and soon the
rest of germany with possibly other countries to follow. morbid and
spv are wiping sweat from their brows as we speak over us.

we have very strong support for our musik in america from two
potentially very good record labels whom have absolutely no fear in
our stuff. the new home will be officially announced shortly so keep
checking our web site for details. so i'll leave it with the fact
that we are not going to stop! in fact it will only get worse and
worse; it is time someone took a stand no matter the consequences of
his words. if we cannot play someplace or release cds somewhere then
so be it. there are always OTHER places to perform and extra-legal
mailorder or internet orders into these areas.

31. last words ?

our debut "blackest hymns of gods disgrace" will be out this summer
on vinyl lp from www.hellsheadbangers.com and we are also officially
through with DEATHGASM RECORDS who has no more rights left to carry
the cd or shirts after the last few are gone since his contract was
for only 1000 copies with option for more if agreed upon by the band
and said lable. we have cut him off as well due to bitching about
licenses everywhere hurting his sales. this is funny since he was
originally afraid to agree on anymore than 1000 and himself
personally has gone thru 3000 that we know of, not counting the cds&
cassettes licenses from others! expect a remixed/mastered version
with bonus tracks and new art in the very near future on a different
label.

as for the older version among the tons of worldwide licenses
another one is mexico city's GOATSUCKER REC. & a label in peru that
is slipping my mind at this moment. we simply give it away to these
small labels because they work hard for you in their countries and
in the future it will all pay off so for now if you have a label and
think you can make a lot of fans for us in your country then drop me
a mail bomb and it will be yours!!!

http://www.musicalliance.info/evilinc/
evilincarnate2@himnosrituales.com

EVIL INCARNATE 
evilincarnate.imess.net

Music

Grand Belial's Key - Judeobeast Assassination 
by Josef

By some called the founding fathers of the USBM scene, Americas
final answer to the Cradle of Filth-question Grand Belial's Key or
GBK for short, are truly a source of hope for contemporary black
metal. This release, on Moribund Records, features eight tracks of
christ hating and diety ridicule with an essential pinch of satire
and self- distance. Opening up with the at times almost melodic
track "The Tenderhearteds Manifesto", the pace is set. Using tempo
changes to their full advantage, the superb guitarplay and rather
innovative structure is promoted and take the front seat. Most of
the continuing songs are rather catchy, almost rock n' rollish and
have a clear rythmic feel to them. Compared to other bands of this
type, GBK are a less Oi!-ish experience, oozing with devotion. Is
this a good album? Definately. Is this music for the ages? Well, it
very well might be.

Bathory - Nordland II 
by Josef

It's time again, the multi-talented mastermind Quorthon has granted
us yet another sip from his always full cup of metal. Or that's what
I'd like it to be at least, but even us die hard fans have to
realize that the guy is getting old and far too politically correct.
Nordland II is basically just more of Nordland I, wich can be
compared to a dumbed down Twilight of the Gods. It is a clear
attempt of recreating the atmosphere of the earlier Viking releases,
but it falls short because it also incorporates the sub par style
elements of Requim/Octagon. Well, at least the openly homosexual
power metal influences manage to give you a chuckle in between the
almost non existant well orchestrated Wagnerian pieces. As can be
expected, pretty much every song deals with classical Dungeons and
Dragonesque themes, and the fantasy village of Asa-bay keeps popping
up like a badly congested breakfast. With the exception of one song,
when I play "The Land", I can feel the spirit of the old Bathory
again. This one nationalistic metal anthem stands out among the
mediocre and almost manages to save this album from being a bad
purchase.

Intestine Baalism -  "Banquet in the Darkness" 
by kontinual

Upon hearing "Banquet in the Darkness," the development of this band
from their demo through their first brilliant full-length "An
Anatomy of the Beast" and to present is brought into better
perspective. The debut was a perfect confluence of the dark, winding
death metal of the(ir) early days, and subtle melodicism as
performed correctly by bands in pre- Gothenburg explosion/disaster
times (see early EUCHARIST, early AT THE GATES et al). Despite being
written over five years, the album was more or less seamless in
presentation and coherent in drive. "Banquet in the Darkness,"
although completely in line aesthetically with its predecessor,
fails to make the quite the same impact thanks to too much watered
down, populist rock melody infiltrating once fertile creative
ground. Melody once used for accent has now become an excuse to
write songs based on "Slaughter of the Soul" type gallop-riffs
topped with ARCH ENEMY styled lead guitar flair (see the title
track, "A Knight Appears from the Lake of Blood"). Despite these
glaring examples of corrupting influence, many tracks do remain that
are similar in flavor to the older work, if only less convincing
("The Genuine Tone," "Memory"). However, melody is thrown around
abusively enough even in many otherwise excellent tracks to tend to
choke the listener. The final track, with its more traditional
stripped down and rhythmic death metal approach, shows the stark
shift in songwriting philosophy the band has undergone in the post-
"An Anatomy of the Beast" era. Written in 1991, it is a strange
self-inflicted testament to what this album might have been free of
overtly melodic silliness. An album written completely in the style
of the last track could have been great, but "Banquet in the
Darkness" unfortunately finds itself swimming in hyper-competent
mediocrity as there is just too much garbage to be had with the
potential it once possessed.

Celestia - Cave Full of Bats

Reminiscent of both Rotting Christ and Cenotaph, this fast melodic
black metal in the Southern style of constant melodic passage
between repetition and change is quite good for a later-run black
metal band. It is of the newer generation in that it has a more
defined sound and more stripped-down and linearized concept than
early black metal bands had, but it is one of the few albums to
manage a solid work utilizing one technique solidly for almost the
entire album in the style of Transylvanian Hunger from Darkthrone,
but has a more consistent basic mood behind the whole, and true to a
different spirit, is reminiscent of the romanticist pastoral music
of the European countryside more than it is of the grim and hateful
aspect. Vocals are closest to the work of Immortal, but are often
chanted in the same cadences for longer periods of time, prompting
them to be more background and less evocative as an instrument. The
dominant compositional tool here is the guitar, gently emanating
melodic lines like smoke and melding into its own dying harmonies,
producing a tucked-under sense that is stagnant except for its
promise of change, allowing these musicians a full palette of hope,
joy, loss and oblivion. Drumming is mostly linear like an ambient
crustcore band, but it supports the lead instruments seemingly from
within owing to its understated character in the texture of
variation which determines change in this work. These complementary
instrumental roles mesh together into a work of subtle structure
with flashes of color within; it sometimes could use a change of
background mood, but its strength is its simple yet insightful
phrasing in cyclic barrage of riffs format.

Miasma - Love Songs

At its extreme edge of drone, doom metal is repetitive and pointless
and thus self-pitying and dramatic, making it as hateful as a
disciplinarian church lady or the kid who always turned everyone
else in for drugs. Miasma seem to have created this EP around the
concept of self-pity and self-loathing in metaphorical association
with external objects, rendering a mixture of American style
moderately technical "old school" death metal (Monstrosity,
Massacre, Revenant) crossed with a My Dying Bride clone from
northern continental Europe. There's something like Venom in the
mock opera too, but this is where the album stands down a slice. Its
attempt to make something unique in the aesthetic and "concept" of
this album results in something being acted out, instead of action
put to music - thus, it falls flat softly like a goose-down mattress
into the snow, but that song flow never goes into fully tangential
mode and each piece fits into the whole in a gently concentric
arrangement of layers suggests a basic talent applied to a senseless
direction.

Crimson Massacre - Temple of Gore

Once again, this reviewer is caught in paradox: this album is good
work, but isn't black metal and should quit trying to be. If you
like old school death metal that moves from a light dance of melody
over rhythm so full of sublimated aggression it is literally
bursting, via transitional introductions or abrupt changes, to a
gratifyingly laid back cadence over which throbbing heavy metal
chorus riffs and anthemic blasting death metal sounds, this album is
an underrated find, and its title makes sense also in that genre. As
black metal, it misses the boat, and while all of us have sympathy
for these musicians trying to succeed in what's "current," it's
better for them to admit their inner soul as a cross between
Monstrosity and old Sentenced and move on to where their true
allegiances clearly lie.

Hellbastard - Natural Order

This interesting hybrid mixes NWOBHM-styled melodic metal with the
rhythmic aesthetics of a Florida death metal band, bouncing between
delicate lead picking or extended soloing and throbbing first-five-
frets powerchording. Vocals are vaguely crustcore meets Bruce
Dickenson, and the crust influence extends to a linear tendency in
songwriting; once songs get moving, they are unyielding and drive
predictably through cycles to a conclusion. It's not bad but it's
not distinctive enough to stand the longer term test; a surprisingly
qualtiy release for old school death metal fanatics, however.

Comecon - Megatrends in Brutality

Combining crusty hardcore and simple Swedish death metal, Comecon
make music that races between pauses to hammer out anthemic figures,
often with intervening melodic work in the single-stringed tremelo
to become popular in black metal. While the cadences are rewarding
and anger seems genuine, the repetition factor is sheer boredom as
are the crustcore(tm) simplistic worldview lyrics, which make it
embarrassing to own this dated piece of "OK."

Karandash - Applicide

Put together your hippy music with abrasive ZZ-top influenced death
metal that derives much of its inspiration from the "positive" side
of punk, and you get this album of rockish and busy but linear
sound. Emphasis on rhythmic expectation makes this downright
annoying, as do the hippie punker vocals, but there's not-bad death
metal between the hastily recombined influences. Individual parts
are profound, both for the adept switching of rhythmic signatures
and riff patterns, producing some inspiring music among the bouncy
punk/rock and avantgardish metal. As a whole however, its lack of a
clue makes it another has been, despite getting points for being one
of the few death metal bands to include a Commodore C-64 in their
cover art.

The Mist - Gottverlassen

Jumping onto the "Third World Metal" bandwagon, The Mist produce
something similar to what later Sepultura became, where metal and
punk meet in a hybrid that eschews metal phrase-centric riffing in
favor of power chords ranted out on the beat while a voice chants
the primary cadence. Similar to Pantera and Meshuggah and Soulfly
and Ratos de Porrao, this music is thus very angry and immediately
grasped, but musically regresses to the early days of rock and loses
all of its metal aspects but aesthetics. While this may satisfy
some, it bores this reviewer and seems a step back to less
intelligent days of metal; what are they attempting to do, appeal to
the dumbest audience possible?

Diaboli - Anthems of Sorrow

This band is a perfect example of what killed black metal. The songs
are melodic and use two riffs to maintain a mood, in the minimalist
style of Darkthrone or Judas Iscariot. Songs titles are recombinant
borrowings from Norsecore albums. Vocals are hoarse with high
sustain on concluding notes. Melodies resolve themselves too
abruptly and are content to achieve an atmosphere of mixed emotions
which is tied off in ambiguity; like college radio rock or lesbian
folk, it has an emotional content, yet this content doesn't vary on
the scale of the album as a whole. It isn't anything less than good,
but it's absolutely nothing more, and completely indistinct in this
time; that is to say, these guys wanted to "become a black metal
band," and they've done that, but without having anything to say,
resulting in a completely generic output that decreases the impact
of the genre as a whole. In 2009, they'll look back and say, "Bands
like this killed black metal, because in retrospect, mediocrity is a
relative measurement."

Zarathustra - Dogma Antichrist

On the inset, this album says "Pure Traditional Black Metal," but
that should be changed to "pure traditional death metal with black
metal aesthetics." It's rhythm cadence music stitched together with
melodic effects, but takes no real direction. This CD is moderately
addictive, but lapses into the same series of slower and mid-paced
cadences with breaking phrases, e.g. those that cross their own
starting tone in the process of reaching a lower point, causing a
drone effect that is fine until repeated terminally, as it is here.
As with many bands in later black metal, this isn't bad, but it's
not excellent, thus a healthy response to it is lukewarm.

Serberus - In Eternity

Why is this talented heavy metal band pretending to be black/death
metal? Too bad; they totally shatter their own potential and come
across as people too underconfident to attempt mainstream music.
Somewhere on the scale between Iron Maiden and later Judas Priest,
this band features abundant distinctive lead rhythm playing and
neoclassical grandeur in introductory and transitional material.
Some rhythms are similar to what a death metal band with 25% Pantera
in its lineage might do, and song structures while simple and cyclic
aren't afraid to make apparent tangents harmonize. But overdone,
synth'd out death vocals slash across the tracks dressed up to sound
like mainstream heavy metal "black metal" without the keys.
Honestly, give it the fuck up. Get singing-style vocals and start
making a heavy version of power metal (that'll be a first). The raw
material is capable, but this band like mainstream conventions in
cadence, rhythmic expectation in arrangement and harmonic format
enough that they will never stand out in the underground.

Vermin - Millenium Ride

Like many Swedish death metal bands did toward the end of their
careers, this band veers into "death-n-roll," a form of music based
loosely in the work of Motorhead but given death metal riff textures
and aggressive tempos. This band adds some Samhain-style mixed rough
and sonorous singing, but basically, this is dressed up rock music
and not worth pursuing because, if you're going to step over into
the mainstream, White Zombie is better.

Cutthroat - Rape!Rape!Rape!

This album is beyond stupid. When out of ideas, declare you're doing
a "Tribute to the Old True Ones" and throw in some novelty about
your place of origin or sexual inadequacy. Then, to make it "ironic,
" so that no one can blame you when it fails, throw in some "humor"
like samples from movies, goofy song titles and dumb topics.
Finally, don't bother to organize your songs - go riff/chorus all
the way and play the most simplistic shit you can. Morons from the
USA will assume it's "cult" and buy it like the metalized hipsters
they are.

Haggard - A Midnight Gathering

There's no shortage of playing ability here, but something's rotten
in this band: there is no real impetus to create music, but an
opportunism which seeing itself rejected in other areas seeks to
find a novelty in which to express it. Here relatively competent
soundtrack style "orchestrated" music built around male and female
vocals demonstrates its ability to create complex compositions, but
fails to achieve any anchor for them. Vocals wander, motifs build to
nowhere and then drop in semi-black metal vocals, then keyboard
fluffing bears the rest of the weight of the song. There's no
outright reason to say it's horrible except that the whole delivers
almost nothing except novelty metal, with the "metal" mostly
lacking. It's stuff like this that has retailers putting their
"black metal" and "Disney music" sections adjacent to one another.

Naked Whipper - Painstreaks

Please, can someone else give this hackneyed concept a try? After
all, metal and sadomasochism go well together in the narrow view
that both are about pain and corruption, so let's bond them together
for their own sake. Really. It dresses up otherwise idealless music
that's a throwback from the previous generation, and makes it seem
unique. The "ironic" bit is that it is also self-mocking, so if you
criticize, hey man, they knew anyway. This music is mediocre,
concept is bad, values are crap & it's part of the movement that has
buried metal in moronic expectations and "tolerance." Do yourself a
favor and buy old Sodom CDs instead.

Urgentum - Uld Interitum Funebrarum

Not groundbreaking, but quite good, this band uses the approach of
old Enslaved toward songs: repeat themes with variations and turn
tangents into supporting motifs, while making liberal use of lead
and lead rhythm guitar to stitch structure between relatively
melodic tracks. Mixed into that are, in the style of Manes, some
elements of prog rock and atmospheric rock, forming something that
underneath its muted production and hazy wash of layered sound, is
energetic and upbeat. A criticism of this might be that it finds
mood but not direction, however, in the view of this reviewer its
immersion becomes useful as it explores the depth of simple themes.
There are disorganized moments and the album tapers off in quality,
yet despite that and the use of some very basic techniques, this
retains interest longer than most metal bands can.

Menhir - Thuringia

As an attmept to bring metal toward higher musical complexity and
thus extract it from the realm of repetitive flailing, this band is
a worthy effort, and there are no quarrels here with
instrumentation, production or understanding of black metal riffing.
However, this release isn't up to par in terms of musical ideas,
preferring variants of well-known patterns draped in lush layers of
novelty. As a result it is "emotional" but fails to achieve a
lasting emotion, and in its Celtic rock cum Lord of the Rings
Soundtrack approach it is more than overblown, it's just silly. If
there wasn't enough drama on daytime TV, put some in your CD player;
highly competent drama, but its values are impoverished.

Agressor - Towards Beyond

For the number and power of those in the power metal and retro-
thrash camps, it's amazing this release hasn't been praised more of
late. Using rhythm as a weapon, the band establish rolling tempos in
which guitar strumming and drum pace interlocking create a sensation
of motion which is then varied throughout the length of each song to
convey the listener to new relations to the central driving pattern
of each song. It's anthemic like NWOBHM, naturally cadenced like
death metal and energetic like speed metal, with great and dextrous
creativity in riffing. Perhaps the less than thick vocal production
and the whisper hoarseness of the same contributed to this? That
unwise move may have cost the band a complete package, but it
doesn't touch the essentially powerful and unique music of this
obscure band.

Decieverion - Decieverion

Schizophrenia: This band has mastered all the techniques of
underground black metal. They are assembled in a way that leaves no
direction open. Vocals are quality, sounding like the more competent
of the bigger "black metal" styled bands from England and Norway.
The vocals dramatize the progress of each song in circles.
Percussion is understated but can be violent when necessary, and
guitar distortion is mixed expertly into the song. Prominent screams
and surging guitar enclose repetition in rhythm and pattern. Gentle
upward strumming, cycling use of harmony and occasional punchy
anthemic stadium heavy metal riffs shove the music forward. There is
no overall direction, only a lack of hope. This album beautifully
integrates the styles of past and present in metal with a heavy dose
of radio rock and punk/metalcore. While the style is refined, the
statement is empty. Unification: Black metal is no longer new, so
being good at making black metal is no longer sufficient; it's
circular, and leads to schizophrenia.

Kataklysm - Victims of This Fallen World

What happens when metal bands fall into self-pity? They become
liberals who cry for their pet issues and thus decide life is bad,
so they settle on being both angry and hopeless, and make music that
goes in circles without getting anywhere. The best way to do that is
to make bouncy metalcore because, like Pantera or new Metallica, you
can scream about how angry you are without having to be creative
your beliefs or lyrics. Because you're now halfway to punk, you can
embrace the culture of egalitarianism and self-pity without
thinking, "Gosh, I'm stupid," and be fooled into putting your
considerable talents into populist music designed to amuse stupid
brats. Kataklysm, you blew it like a $10 whore with this album. It's
a great example of good metalcore that still falls short of the
intensity or musicality of a good death metal album, like, say, the
Kataklysm album previous to this one.

Acheron - Those Who Have Risen

The band most clearly associated with organized occultism in metal
returns, capitalizing on their concept with an album of hybrid
metal. While the vocals are as disturbingly diseased as those on the
first Acheron work, the basic metal they create has been hybridized
with hard rock in a highly competent way, giving this band
commercial appeal if they want it. Lead guitars are flowery and
adept at fast changes in tempo, and decorate admirably tight
compositions. Keyboards offset much of this and offer depth in
harmony at vital points. There is a tendency to stay within easily
recognized harmonic patterns, but otherwise, this is heading quickly
toward progressive rock territory, reminiscent of Therion or Cynic
at times. While this is good for what it is, it perhaps should lose
the necrotic vocals and find a larger label so that it can reach a
mainstream audience.

Necrophiliac - Chaopula: Citadel of Mirrors

One of the early death metal releases in the cumbersome style of
cudgel-like rhythm guitar and chaotic vocals and leads, this album
retains the youthful spirit of trying to find "a solution" to the
human situation by wrapping as much of life as possible in metaphor
uniting death and life to some non-visible purpose. Rhythms
unsteadily hop between beats and songwriting is often haphazard,
yet, taken as a whole, this album exudes a primitive spirit of what
death metal was: a rejection of the narrow functionalist existence
seen around it and a search for more significance, even if it meant
in transcendence of Judeo-Christian ethics accepting death as real.
As an artist said, "Disharmony in a song does not necessarily mean
the artist advocates a disharmonic existence"; in this art, many
techniques come together to portray situations which when
interpreted later, independent of technique, reveal an attitude
toward life, or a spirit within - and this is the essence of the
art, here and elsewhere. Incompetent, immature, socially
unacceptable and beautiful in its passion toward life, this album is
for those who want to remember the early days of death metal in all
of its ambiguity and indescribably accurate commentary on an
increasingly mechanical existence.

Vex - Sphereith

Sometime during the year 1997, black metal changed from a small
genre to a large one, and with rampant populist expansion lost its
impetus and focus, going from a point of impact to a room in which
people discussed that point of impact in recombinant fragments of
its original momentum. Five years later, there are many black metal
bands, and while Vex is closer to the top of the heap than the
bottom, it so far has not achieved the distinction necessary to gain
any form of broader notice. The riffs on this, like most post-
Darkthrone blackmetal constructions, are of a few chords or notes
harmonized together with fast strumming. Dischordant stylistic
elements include a reliance on heavy metal rhythmic drive and vocals
that are more of the guttural death style in both rhythm and
delivery than they are black metal; however, in a post-Gothenburg
sense of melodic and mellifluous sound that is also punchy like a 3-
chord hardcore band, Vex are quite adept and provide comfortable
listening. Best of luck to these guys, as the entire North American
continent seems to be aiming for this same style.

Features

Vinterriket
by Malus Aeturnus

Aus Deutschland comes Vinterriket, an answer to the questionable
integrity and lack of forward motion in underground metal. Behind
this one-man project is Christoph Ziegler. Since 2000, he has
released over 20 promos, splits, demos, and one full album. He seems
never to run out of ideas, tapping into both the musical past and
the future, yet avoiding the tried and true and dead formula.

The music ranges consistently somewhere between Ambient (Mortiis)
and classic Scandanavian blackmetal (Isengard) style. Thick
percussion and harsh vocals are used carefully when at all; the drum
machine serves perfectly. More striking are the clean vocals
slightly reminiscent of Isengard's "Høstmørke". When used, distorted
guitars are in equal proportion to the keyboards, creating a gentle
melodic hum as the backdrop for a dominant flute or high-end melody.

The project has a very visual theme, a 'winter kingdom' as the name
implies. The music itself urges the imagination into landscapes of
snow-covered pines upon a mountain; visions an age long past.  The
keyboards can even take on the quality of ice shattering on an
especially warm winter morning.

Noteworthy releases: Stürme der letzten Stille, Kälte, Promo 2002,
...und die Nacht kam schweren Schrittes, im Winter, Gjennom Tåkete
Skogen

VINTERRIKET
http://www.vinterriket.com

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BAHIMIRON
April 4, 2003
Cardis - Houston, TX

Taking to the stage after a casual sound check, Texas black metal
aspirants Bahimiron played a nearly nonstop set of five songs. Their
music is fundamentally aggressive of unrelenting pace and primal
means of creation, and rose triumphantly in searing distortion
merging with seethingly deconstructed vocals. Frontman and guitarist
Grimlord incessantly tore into his instrument, slashing out precise
but organically loose riffs over the pugilistic drum work of
skinsman Blaash, while JenOside covered bass duties with a detached,
almost mournful look on her face, letting fingers fall across
strings. While concentration to recent instrumental achievements was
present in the faces of these brave musicians, more audible was
their dedication to hurling forth a coordinated assault of pure gut-
feeling which portrays this world as the dark context that it is,
giving voice to an independent spirit within which challenges all
stability and mechanical certainty. Songs selectively moved between
high-intensity pacing and warlike stalking tempos but kept an
intensity moving throughout the narrative. Although this was one of
the band's first shows, their dedication and professionalism made it
a credible experience, and the raw visceral sense of the sound they
produced transformed it into a descent through nothingness. It is a
wise move for a band such as this to distinguish themselves from the
recent tenfold increase in the black metal population, and they have
done this: with hard work, with honest music, and by having
something in their black hearts to say. While this reviewer cannot
claim to be aware of the full breadth of American black metal at
this time, this show is one of the few by American bands which he
has witnessed that qualified as black metal in both musical
convention and spirit.

Setlist:

Thy Cursed Flame (demo)
Blood from an Open Wound (demo)
Hunting Down the Weak (ep)
Poison the Crucifix (ep)
Dizease onto Holiness (unreleased)

The demo referred to above is "Funeral Black," a review of which can
be found at www.anus.com/music/bahimiron/. EP refers to an upcoming
CD release on Blood Fire Death label, whose homepage can be found at
www.destructionritual.com. Demo and EP songs can also be found on
the rehearsal tape 2003 which is circulating in some parts of the
underground.

BAHIMIRON
2207 Cherry Bend
Houston, Texas 77077

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Heidenlarm Magazine presents:
DEATH METAL FOR DUMMIES

Our intrepid reporter got an exclusive interview with Vince Marks
from the ultra-cult underground Florida death metal band
"Negrocephalus." We asked him to give us a breakdown on death metal
songwriting, especially the kind of "old school Morrisound death
metal" that has made bands like Six Feet Under famous and
successful. So if you're an aspiring death metal musician, read on!

hey, it's me, big vince from negrocephalus (however the fuck you
pronounce it). i don't know about this for dummies stuff, because
i'm no dummy, but my friends at the Tallahasse PD say i'm not the
brightest bulb in the bunch either, so i guess i'm qualified. what i
DO know is how to make heavy as fuck old-ass school death metal that
kicks some ass. put away those baggy pants, dawg!

the key to making good music is to realize you're creating a sitcom
in sound form for your listener. they have see and feel the
suffering, joy, etc. so you'd better find some things to anchor your
ideas, like extrmees.

first, think of a really low chord (like "E"). think about hammering
this a lot because, low chords emphasize heavy stuff like death, and
you are making metal so you want something deathlike and depressing.

next, you need a false promise of hope, something that's higher on
the scale but not quite to the end of it; since E is the low part of
the scale, pick something around "A" or A itself... this is super
convenient and most bands use it.

finally, you want an intermediate step, something not quite heavy
and deathlike, but not quite an "A" either... something like G works
well, because most metal bands tend to use this.

OK. now you're ready to write metal.

find some kind of "riff" you can use on the E like playing it on a
4/4 beat like pantera... hammer that fucker. the more the heavier.
chant something over this.

then, find a way to get to your A, like a chromatic slide either
way. hammer the A too, but not as much, so people can tell happiness
isn't as real as heaviness (the "E")

every other time when you do this, play the G in the middle to show
people there's a journey going on to somewhere. NOTE: if you're
using keyboards, do a quick jump around the scale on those at this
point, because it makes people think they're disconnected, floating
above the music, since most of your fans will be on drugs/drunk
anyway.

OK. that was your verse. i recommend stimulating verses about death,
abortion, disfigurement, etc. in iambic with heavy emphasis on
simple rhyme, like this:

YOU MADE ME FEEL SO GAY
NOW YOU FUCKEN PAY
I WILL RAPE YOUR BRAIN
NOW YOU DIE IN PAIN

see how "now" gets repeated, and there's a contrast between "you"
and "i"? this is classic. also, spelling "fucking" as "fucken" shows
you know the right way to spell it, and you don't care... it's irony
or smth.

OK. now you've got your lyrics. chant these in a shout while
screaming. this makes them really sound upsetting. what you need
remaining is a chorus, and a bridge. which is the piece that
connects riffs and choruses as you get ready to end the song or do a
solo, but really, solos are just fucking random notes anyway so you
can stick them wherever you want.

for your chorus, you want something catchy, and yet simple, and
really loud. so you probably want to do something simple like pause
on the "G" for a few moments, then strum the "A" a whole bunch and
ram it home with a chromatic slide to "E" (and then you can beat the
fuck out of that chord... nothing succeeds like excess, i always
say). just go from an "A" to the "E" and take it slow on the first,
so people know that's where you're coming from and the "E" is what
you're going to.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA EEEEE

well see, that wasn't so bad. it's easy. you should be ready to
write your bridge riff now, and finish your first death metal song.
if you want reviewers to rave on about the "complexity" of your
work, you can either put in a riff that uses chromatic (means you
don't skip around on the fretboard, just do it in a straight line)
power chord battery. in this song, a good example would be A#->A
followed by F->E, because these make it sound like someting going
doooowwwwn into death. use really thick vocals. this sets you up to
go into the bridge, but you can also put stuff like this in other
parts of the song.

OK, the thing about the bridge is the best of them both sound really
loud and are musically enlightening, meaning they make you feel good
about life. if you look upstairs and check out what we were talking
about earlier, "E" chords mean heavy and dead, and "A" chords mean
happy and light. OK. so keep that in mind. you want your bridge to
go from dark to light, so you can destroy it all by going back to
the heavy stuff. the 2nd fret is the most important fret in all of
metal!!!

anyway, i like to match lyrics and chords, because this is
educational. so thinking that i want to go from heavy to light in
the bridge, i am thinking i want to use "E" and "A" and "G," which
are the chords we're using for this song, in some way that's
slightly ironic but really enlightening, and i want to play them
each a lot. that looks like:

EEEEE AAAAAAA GGGG

this always looks to me like a lyric, so that's what i make the
bridge lyric, "EEEAAAAGGGHHHHH" or something like that to go along
with the music. some people say death metal isn't educational, but
if you listen to the vocalist, you can learn a lot about what chords
those are.

the "G" on the end is to make it ironic, which is when things don't
turn out like they look like they will for some reason that's funny
and proves life doesn't make any sense so you should stop trying,
like when you get pulled over by the pigs outside wendy's but then
they go inside and the guy serving orders ditches his speed in your
bag... fries and meth. man life doesn't get better than that.

so let's look at song structure. first, you want the verses:

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AAAA

since the song is going to need about ten or twelve parts (don't
worry you can just repeat the whole thing and no one will notice, so
like five or six parts, but repeated twice) you are going to want to
do this like 2 or 3 times before you go on to the chorus, which
looks like this

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA EEEE

OK, just play that a few times, you're doing great! maybe do a line
or two to keep your energy up, because the big moment is up next.
you're going to do the bridge! but first, remember that little bit i
was talking about to keep the reviewers happy, that chromatic thing
with the "E" and "A" chords? some people call it an introduction, i
call it a "ramp" because it leads your retarded audience right to
the final fuckin' riff man! right, well, let's be really tricky
here. do this

verse (2x)
chorus
verse
ramp
verse
bridge
chorus

and then repeat the whole fucken thing!!! people are gonna freak out
man, they think it's really "progressive" of you to do that, so it's
cool they'll call you a genius and give you free meth. that's rad. i
got into metal because of free meth, and it's never steered me wrong
since! except that arrest before our first concert but fuck it,
opening for slayer was no big deal anyway. OK, let's go over the
bridge again.

EEEEE AAAAAAA GGGG

see how short this is? you'll have to get the drummer to slow down
(turn over your shoulder and shout "slow down") so you can play this
twice and have it hang around longer than the verse... this way the
audience knows it's a deep part. they do this on friends too, with
the music when people start kissing and stuff. OK, let's finish this
fucker, cause I've got a parole meeting in twenty minutes.

you remember your song shape is this:

verse (2x)
chorus
verse
ramp
verse
bridge
chorus

well you want some way for your audience to know the song is ending
so they can get ready to go get beer at the bar between songs! this
is totally important, clubs like bands that sell beer. OK, do this,
your chorus is normally like this:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA EEEE

but you want it to sound final, but you don't want to repeat what
you were doing. OK, we want another chord in here... well fuck it,
how about F#? deicide use this fucker alot too... but you don't want
to end predictably, so do the exact opposite of what your audience
expects, and use the "E" to get them ready for the F# and then end
it. OK, try something like this:

EEEE AAAAA EEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA F# EEEE

see if you play that out loud, it sounds fucken heavy dude! the
audience goes wild, so yell out "show me your tits" (but not in a
death voice) so all the girls will pull up their shirts and if
they're drunk enough they'll have no bras on and you can see those
golden globes! awright! well dude that's about all i've got for
today... remember that $5 you said you might have? well, it's friday
and my car's broken down, and my girlfriend's pregnant with our... i
think it's the third kid... anyway, i also have no beer money. help
a poor metalhead get fucked up? after all, i spilled all the
songwriting secrets of brutal old school death metal to you.

Radar

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behave like "brats" or "burnouts." Brats are the people who think
every teenager should have a black metal band, be Satanic, shock his
or her peers and be "different," but that they all have a right to
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"scene" - is anathema to what they believe, which seems to be basic
American liberalism with Satanic pretense on top of it. Naturally,
these people are mocked anywhere OUTSIDE of the black metal worlds
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sent to 6.66 friends, etc. "Burnouts" are people who've been in
metal forever and, despite massive cocaine/alcohol addiction,
failure in life, etc. can't seem to find any goals outside of the
genre, so they create "joke bands" or "avantgarde projects" and
pretend they're important. These people are united by their
inability to accept that elitism and its complement, meritocracy,
are part of black metal. If your band is average, it shouldn't be
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